can you terminate lease contract if you dont recieve signing bonus - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-29T00:44:14Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/can-you-terminate-lease-contract-if-you-dont-recieve-signing?groupUrl=Belmont&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThey did give $5800/20% on a…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-01-22:2274639:Comment:2280342012-01-22T19:46:42.704ZFinnbearhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Finnbear
<p>They did give $5800/20% on a bunch of cherry pick leases in December through ALOV. Belmont is one of the 6 or 7 counties included in that deal. Initially we were told we could get in on that deal in a 2nd signing but then the stonewalling began and the second signing evaporated.</p>
<p>They did give $5800/20% on a bunch of cherry pick leases in December through ALOV. Belmont is one of the 6 or 7 counties included in that deal. Initially we were told we could get in on that deal in a 2nd signing but then the stonewalling began and the second signing evaporated.</p> no i havnt seen it in writin…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-01-21:2274639:Comment:2271842012-01-21T05:35:28.575Zderonhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/deronsmith
<p> no i havnt seen it in writing, when i talked to a landman it was around 5000, I had only heard that it was now 5500 from a guy who hasnt signed yet. could very well be a rumor.</p>
<p> no i havnt seen it in writing, when i talked to a landman it was around 5000, I had only heard that it was now 5500 from a guy who hasnt signed yet. could very well be a rumor.</p> i sent a certified letter to…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-01-11:2274639:Comment:2228172012-01-11T21:04:09.786Zderonhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/deronsmith
<p>i sent a certified letter to tri star requesting a release of lease. The post office showed that the letter arrived but Tri Star never signed for it and the letter is sitting at the post office. shows you what kind of company tri star is. So i called an attorney today. The attorney said that since i was released from wishgard any assigned lease is void. The attorney said since the lease was never sent to gulfport there wasnt much he could do because Tri Star wont respond to them, but also…</p>
<p>i sent a certified letter to tri star requesting a release of lease. The post office showed that the letter arrived but Tri Star never signed for it and the letter is sitting at the post office. shows you what kind of company tri star is. So i called an attorney today. The attorney said that since i was released from wishgard any assigned lease is void. The attorney said since the lease was never sent to gulfport there wasnt much he could do because Tri Star wont respond to them, but also that I should be clear to sign with another company. He didnt sound 100 percent confident but close to it. Even if i get nothing at least I stopped Wishgard from robbing me. Im now going to look into another company. Any good offers out there? Chesapeake was at 5500 at 20 percent 2 months ago but they havnt contacted me since</p> Request a release from Tri St…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-23:2274639:Comment:2143442011-12-23T13:52:00.652Z0i7okn54zwbdohttps://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_0i7okn54zwbdo
Request a release from Tri Star immediately. They might have paid Wishgard for your lease already. If so expect a protracted legal battle.
Request a release from Tri Star immediately. They might have paid Wishgard for your lease already. If so expect a protracted legal battle. To ensure that your title is…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-20:2274639:Comment:2118362011-12-20T04:36:14.171ZFinnbearhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Finnbear
<p>To ensure that your title is clear for future leasing opportunities you should get a release of lease on both the original lease and the assigned (ASGN) lease. This would be a release from Wishgard and another from Tri Star.</p>
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<p>To ensure that your title is clear for future leasing opportunities you should get a release of lease on both the original lease and the assigned (ASGN) lease. This would be a release from Wishgard and another from Tri Star.</p>
<p></p> Deron don't believe you are…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-19:2274639:Comment:2116332011-12-19T21:51:03.763Z09bp5t05myjl3https://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_09bp5t05myjl3
<p>Deron don't believe you are correct, the lease from wishgard was assigned to Tristar, Just like a Mortage assignment Tristar holds the lease once assigned to them and only they can properly release the lien/lease, IMO you will have a cloud on your title!</p>
<p>Deron don't believe you are correct, the lease from wishgard was assigned to Tristar, Just like a Mortage assignment Tristar holds the lease once assigned to them and only they can properly release the lien/lease, IMO you will have a cloud on your title!</p> James don't beat yourself up…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-19:2274639:Comment:2115202011-12-19T19:58:31.937ZPhilip Brutzhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/PhilipBrutz
<p>James don't beat yourself up to much. We were all trying to help him. Both you and Finnbear are worth paying attention to.</p>
<p>Back in 1988 when I bought my land, the first thing that I asked was if the mineral rights were included. The owner said yes. I trusted him, but I still payed several hundred dollars to have my lawyer drive from Barnesville to the Cambridge court house to check. It turned out that there was an old gas lease that had never been canceled. It was a simple…</p>
<p>James don't beat yourself up to much. We were all trying to help him. Both you and Finnbear are worth paying attention to.</p>
<p>Back in 1988 when I bought my land, the first thing that I asked was if the mineral rights were included. The owner said yes. I trusted him, but I still payed several hundred dollars to have my lawyer drive from Barnesville to the Cambridge court house to check. It turned out that there was an old gas lease that had never been canceled. It was a simple oversight that was easily taken care of. Every time I talk to my lawyer now, I thank him! Land back then was only worth $300 an acre but it still made good sense to have lawyer check it out.</p> Ive been released. The rec…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-19:2274639:Comment:2115192011-12-19T19:55:47.763Zderonhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/deronsmith
<p>Ive been released. The recorders office showed that i had a lease with wishgard and a ASGN lease with tri star energy whom wishgard sold the lease to. It now shows that wishgard released me but it doesnt say anything about the ASGN lease. Im guessing that the ASGN lease would have to be void also since im no longer with wishgard. </p>
<p>Ive been released. The recorders office showed that i had a lease with wishgard and a ASGN lease with tri star energy whom wishgard sold the lease to. It now shows that wishgard released me but it doesnt say anything about the ASGN lease. Im guessing that the ASGN lease would have to be void also since im no longer with wishgard. </p> Gosh i re-read that and i sou…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-19:2274639:Comment:2113122011-12-19T19:30:10.471ZJames Kernshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JamesKerns
<p>Gosh i re-read that and i sound like an ass, sorry. Finnbear seems to be one of those people you should pay attention to when they speak. their are others on here of the same cloth. Figure it out. We all have a life outside of this oil and gas rights, and a possible lease, deal. We must put the time in no matter how much else we have on our plate, and patience is truly a virtue.</p>
<p>I was asked by my wife and a few of her friends, at a christmas party for my wifes workplace last week, to…</p>
<p>Gosh i re-read that and i sound like an ass, sorry. Finnbear seems to be one of those people you should pay attention to when they speak. their are others on here of the same cloth. Figure it out. We all have a life outside of this oil and gas rights, and a possible lease, deal. We must put the time in no matter how much else we have on our plate, and patience is truly a virtue.</p>
<p>I was asked by my wife and a few of her friends, at a christmas party for my wifes workplace last week, to help this one couple out who were considering a deal they had on the table from a company. The deal according to them was some cash now and the oil and gas deal was done. I said to them," so you mean a paid up lease, cash now and royalty later when a well is drilled", no they said just cash now. Well that sounds like a sale of mineral, oil and gas rights here in ohio. I tried to talk to them about the difference between a sale and a paid up lease, and a little about the lease process and pitfalls. "We don't care about all that" was the reply, "we just want the cash". What can you do? We all want the cash, so i said "How long do you plan to live on that piece of land", blank stares was the reply. I tried to recomend this site as an educational tool. "OHH, we dont have time for all that".</p>
<p>You want to call me a preacher, fine.</p>
<p>A cult member, Fine.</p>
<p>One who bloviates because they like to hear their own voice, wrong.</p>
<p>Get educated, form your own opinions, make your own decisions, get an attorney you can trust- to read and advise you before you sign anything. Good luck to everyone. I truly mean that. Happy Holidays.</p>
<p> </p> Hi Finnbear, Deron, others, I…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-19:2274639:Comment:2112112011-12-19T19:06:05.929ZJames Kernshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JamesKerns
<p>Hi Finnbear, Deron, others, I know how this may sound but, it just go's to show the old adage about horses and water is true. About 39-40 days ago Deron started this thread. Newbies- we all are newbies at some point. Good free advise was get an attorney. I know four- with different areas of civil law specialty. They charge $150-$225 an hour. A free consult and an hour to draft your letter, you could have sent it out certified yourself and saved money. Problem solved.</p>
<p>Then you could…</p>
<p>Hi Finnbear, Deron, others, I know how this may sound but, it just go's to show the old adage about horses and water is true. About 39-40 days ago Deron started this thread. Newbies- we all are newbies at some point. Good free advise was get an attorney. I know four- with different areas of civil law specialty. They charge $150-$225 an hour. A free consult and an hour to draft your letter, you could have sent it out certified yourself and saved money. Problem solved.</p>
<p>Then you could have made a better deal for more money and a better lease. Looks like your gettin in bed for a long time with someone who may leave alot to be desired.</p>
<p>There are many others out there not willing to spend the time to do their own home work and not willing to take the time to figure out the real good neighbors on here from the manipulators also found on this site.</p>
<p>If you have to trust someone you must figure out the differance from the real deal giving of their time to try to help you from a sense of fair play and those who will feed you false info and profit from your mistakes.</p>
<p>Get up to speed quickly or become bait. Sorry to be so harsh. Many of us have already figured things out and just visit this site from time to time to try and help out.</p>