Long wall coal mining - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-29T10:15:49Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/long-wall-coal-mining?groupUrl=Belmont&commentId=2274639%3AComment%3A683737&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAsked before in other posts b…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-07-06:2274639:Comment:6837372015-07-06T06:28:13.064ZTim Tarrhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/TimothyTarr
Asked before in other posts but what happens when oil and gas preceed coal rights? That is, oil and gas leased before coal (1898 oil and gas lease) coal severed in 1936 (oil and gas lease in effect). Seems the oil and gas rights might overide coal rights. Coal rights sold in 1960 but oil and gas lease( same one) still in effect (HBP). Now those oil and gas rights reverted to Landowner (surrender of lease) so seems they can mine Coal as long as they don't effect those prior Rights. Mind you…
Asked before in other posts but what happens when oil and gas preceed coal rights? That is, oil and gas leased before coal (1898 oil and gas lease) coal severed in 1936 (oil and gas lease in effect). Seems the oil and gas rights might overide coal rights. Coal rights sold in 1960 but oil and gas lease( same one) still in effect (HBP). Now those oil and gas rights reverted to Landowner (surrender of lease) so seems they can mine Coal as long as they don't effect those prior Rights. Mind you methane gas is "gas" so would seem to fit the "all oil and gas" in that lease.<br />
If they need to vent any gas for mining see oil and gas lease about free gas. Amen to that. Murray is someo…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-05-05:2274639:Comment:2835762012-05-05T17:47:43.298ZCenhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/nothing
<p>Amen to that. Murray is someone that needs knocked off his self made thrown! The long wall wrecks total havock with people's live's and homes. Why don't we get a group of LO together to stop this bully. When the curtain falls alot of things will be revealed that has been under the Murray thumb for decades.</p>
<p>Amen to that. Murray is someone that needs knocked off his self made thrown! The long wall wrecks total havock with people's live's and homes. Why don't we get a group of LO together to stop this bully. When the curtain falls alot of things will be revealed that has been under the Murray thumb for decades.</p> When the curtain does finally…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-04-28:2274639:Comment:2792232012-04-28T12:16:26.185ZCheyennehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Cheyenne
When the curtain does finally get pulled back, it will be interesting to see who all has been working behind the curtain with The All Powerful OZ and the big coal lobby.
When the curtain does finally get pulled back, it will be interesting to see who all has been working behind the curtain with The All Powerful OZ and the big coal lobby. Maybe all of the landowners w…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-04-26:2274639:Comment:2781052012-04-26T14:31:10.410ZBelmontlandownerhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Sperks
<p>Maybe all of the landowners who could potentially be harmed financially by Mr Murray's attempt to impede the oil and gas leasing need to file a class action suit against Murray Energy. Based on our early coal deed language, we have the right to drill through the coal vein. He is attempting to squash that right thereby obstructing our ability to financially benefit from potential leases. Maybe it's time to stand up for a change! Mr. Murray is not the all powerful OZ. Time to pull back the…</p>
<p>Maybe all of the landowners who could potentially be harmed financially by Mr Murray's attempt to impede the oil and gas leasing need to file a class action suit against Murray Energy. Based on our early coal deed language, we have the right to drill through the coal vein. He is attempting to squash that right thereby obstructing our ability to financially benefit from potential leases. Maybe it's time to stand up for a change! Mr. Murray is not the all powerful OZ. Time to pull back the curtain....</p> What was the going price per…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-04-14:2274639:Comment:2714792012-04-14T13:37:06.551ZCheyennehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Cheyenne
What was the going price per acre for the #8 coal rights when they were originally purchased by the coal landmen?<br></br>
Did the landowners get the raw end of that deal as well?<br></br>
Maybe the thousands of local landowners should unite and lobby the states political leaders to outlaw longwall mining, return to conventional mining where coal and oil operators can co-exist and where more miners can be hired and we don't forever lose our water table.<br />
Who knows, with that possible option on the…
What was the going price per acre for the #8 coal rights when they were originally purchased by the coal landmen?<br/>
Did the landowners get the raw end of that deal as well?<br/>
Maybe the thousands of local landowners should unite and lobby the states political leaders to outlaw longwall mining, return to conventional mining where coal and oil operators can co-exist and where more miners can be hired and we don't forever lose our water table.<br />
Who knows, with that possible option on the table, perhaps Murray will knock off the superior mindset and be reasonable enough to work with the oil producers and the many thousands of local landowners.<br />
Murray has the big lobby money but we landowners have the numbers on our side come election day. Vote pro oil and gas and throw the politians out that view coal as superior and that hold us all up from harvesting what is rightfully ours and not under control of the big coal interest. Philip,
The EIAs full anual r…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-04-14:2274639:Comment:2717332012-04-14T13:34:06.471ZDanhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Dang
<p>Philip,</p>
<p>The EIAs full anual report will be out this month but here is a link to the pre report. I didn't read very much but they say 93% of US coal goes to US power generation so there is probably less exports and more imports. I've wondered where metalurgical coal comes from, the demand is allready high. With increased steel demand for pipes, casing and tubing one would think demand would be higher then ever. Maybe someone can chime in that knows the industry. Do you need coal…</p>
<p>Philip,</p>
<p>The EIAs full anual report will be out this month but here is a link to the pre report. I didn't read very much but they say 93% of US coal goes to US power generation so there is probably less exports and more imports. I've wondered where metalurgical coal comes from, the demand is allready high. With increased steel demand for pipes, casing and tubing one would think demand would be higher then ever. Maybe someone can chime in that knows the industry. Do you need coal to make coke to make steel and does it come from local mines? <a href="http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/aeo/er/early_production.cfm">http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/aeo/er/early_production.cfm</a> </p> That half acre of land where…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-04-14:2274639:Comment:2715242012-04-14T03:33:29.351ZDan Warfieldhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/DanielWarfield
<p>That half acre of land where he doesn't own the coal just got really expensive for him.... like $7,999,999,999.99 expensive. Let the negotiations begin in SW belmont County.</p>
<p>That half acre of land where he doesn't own the coal just got really expensive for him.... like $7,999,999,999.99 expensive. Let the negotiations begin in SW belmont County.</p> Does anyone know how much of…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-04-13:2274639:Comment:2710602012-04-13T17:34:59.318ZPhilip Brutzhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/PhilipBrutz
<p>Does anyone know how much of the coal is shipped overseas?</p>
<p>Does anyone know how much of the coal is shipped overseas?</p> King Coal getting a dose or t…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-04-13:2274639:Comment:2711392012-04-13T17:30:06.641ZFinnbearhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Finnbear
King Coal getting a dose or two of his own medicine?
King Coal getting a dose or two of his own medicine? You're right.
However, I dont…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-04-10:2274639:Comment:2675622012-04-10T12:46:59.251ZCheyennehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Cheyenne
You're right.<br />
However, I dont recall anyone running against Selmon in Monroe County since that ruling.<br />
Maybe someone will do that in the future.<br />
In my opinion 7th District needs cleaned up.<br />
Locals continue to repeat the same mistake over and over when they vote for the political party over the candidates personal character.<br />
The truth is that many don't even understand the true facts about day to day intentions of their political party.
You're right.<br />
However, I dont recall anyone running against Selmon in Monroe County since that ruling.<br />
Maybe someone will do that in the future.<br />
In my opinion 7th District needs cleaned up.<br />
Locals continue to repeat the same mistake over and over when they vote for the political party over the candidates personal character.<br />
The truth is that many don't even understand the true facts about day to day intentions of their political party.