Butler County Landowners Group 2010

BCLG

Our next BCLG meeting is going to be Thursday October 28, 2010 at the Snowmobile
Club in Washington Twp.

  a.. At 6pm will be an informational meeting to describe BCLG, answer
questions and to provide updates on the group.  This portion of the meeting
is open to anyone in Cherry, Clay, Concord, Marion, Venango and Washington
Twps. of Butler County.


  b.. At 8pm will be a planning meeting open ONLY for those under agreement
with BCLG.  We will be discussing the findings of our group survey as well
as the strategies to move forward in our collective marketing and
negotiating process.  Our attorney, Andrea Parenti will be present so we can
discuss the lease parameters that we wish to negotiate into the lease.

One thought:  Some landowners have asked me if they should accept an offer
from a gas company now?  They are out there lowballing landowners.  It is
always up to the individual to decide whether to sign or not and we will
never pressure anyone in to signing or not signing, but my feelings and what
has happened historically in other areas is that the numbers do go up!  The
gas companies are not going to walk away, in fact as time goes on more will
come in creating a competitive environment.  I plan on waiting and working
collectively with the other landowners in this group to get more of my fair
share but also to have the power to include protective addendums so MY land,
YOUR land and OUR community are protected!

Hope to see you on the 28th!

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Replies to This Discussion

Permalink Reply by Johhny Jacobs on October 6, 2011 at 4:27pm
Read my posts again. Stop responding like a child. Articulate your hate for me like an adult.
Permalink Reply by Johhny Jacobs on October 6, 2011 at 11:03pm
Thanks, mikey
Permalink Reply by JMS on October 19, 2011 at 6:58pm

Whoa...I am exhausted reading your rant John Boy!

Me thinks you must have some financial reason (losing customers perhaps?) to be bashing our group, otherwise...WHY would you care AT ALL? 

It's not your property we're talking about; and BCLG isn't costing you anything...

Get a life...

 

Permalink Reply by Johhny Jacobs on October 20, 2011 at 3:01pm

At least you read it! If you had replied constructively you would have been 2 for 2 and set the bar. No financial stake......whomp whomp waaaaaa. I don't get $25 an acre.

By your logic, since I ate this morning I shouldn't be concerned with global famine....

Getting a life...

Permalink Reply by JMS on October 22, 2011 at 10:45pm

JJ...

Since I can't reply to your post (no reply button available), I will place my response here. 

So after all, I realize that we should at least thank you for the amount of time and thought you put into your posts...whether or not we agree with you.

And I get that we are paying someone $25 per acre....but the amount of time and effort that our group leaders have put in, on our behalf, is well worth the price.  I don't have the time or energy to do what they are willing to do on my behalf. So many other groups ask for a higher % for their time and expertise.  I think the service is worth the price.

AND... these people are my neighbors...their land is next to my land!  What's not to trust?

 

 

I just don't understand why you would care SO MUCH?

 

Permalink Reply by Johhny Jacobs on October 25, 2011 at 3:18pm

JMS, since there is no reply button, I will also respond here. I appreciate the nod, even if our view points are opposing. 

What have they done for you? Have they negotiated an Addendum for your group that has been even considered by an O&G leasing company? Are you willing to pay $25 an acre for an inferior product than you could get independently (Read: with experienced lawyer, or copying someones Addendum that paid for it)? A prime example of this would be the ABC group (which consisted of MUCH more cumulative acreage than BCLG). ABC couldn't push through a 'blanket' Addendum that was acceptable, so individual landowners approached the given O&G leasing company in their specific area and are getting (/got) the deal done. Huh. 

Good faith (assuming the case) doesn't necessarily mean good results. If I'm going to war, I want to be lead by someone who has experienced gunfire, not someone that enlisted six months ago and is the hardest working grunt digging trenches.

JMS, in my highly regarded opinion (,ask my mother) I would suggest your best bet in this whole equation would be to get together with your immediate neighbors, leased and otherwise, work as a specific unit (not: land here, land there, land everywhere) and sign with the company most likely to produce you (this is where your signed neighbors may come in to play). 

Why, in todays day and age, is caring met with such skepticism? Never mind, answered my own question.

Permalink Reply by JMS on October 25, 2011 at 10:48pm
Good point...thank you for caring then... But I'm sticking with my plan.
Permalink Reply by Gasman on November 3, 2011 at 9:37pm
Why are we being subjected to these infomercial advertisements for an attorney all of a sudden? This forum is for landowners to share information....... Isn't it?
Permalink Reply by DKinPA on November 7, 2011 at 11:34am

NOTICE:  The above post by Shaleadvice is NOT the Butler County Landowners Group!  BCLG has been in existence since February 2010 and is run by landowners for landowners.......Shaleadivce is a Pittsburgh attorney and NOT affiliated or endorsed by our landowner group!

As other posts have indicated he is "advertising" his business.

Permalink Reply by Alex Howes on November 7, 2011 at 12:23pm
Make sure all this goodwill doesn't come at a cost that is a percentage of your bonus or royalty...
Permalink Reply by Matthew Santiago on November 7, 2011 at 3:49pm

  We all know there is no such thing as a free lunch, so I'm curious to see how Shale Advice charges for their representation. 

 

I do not know how Shale Advice makes their money, but I'm sure their making it. We all know anyone charging a percentage of bonus or royalty is a wolf in sheeps clothing.  So landowners dont be fooled, BCLG is the true landowner group representing you and your neighbors best interest.

 

Keep up the good work Doug, We stand with you.

Permalink Reply by Matthew Santiago on November 7, 2011 at 3:37pm

What do you charge for representation? 

 

For example negotiating the lease, representing the land owner, reviewing the lease.   Is it a percentage of the bonus payment or a percentage of the royalty amount?   I think you should be up front about how you charge people for representation. So it would be appreciated if you posted that info on here. 

 

Here is your opportunity to be upfront with people.  Will you take it?

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