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Permalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on May 5, 2011 at 8:02pm

http://tiogagaswatch.blogspot.com/ has maps (right hand side of the page...click on it and you can zoom in and move around), but it isn't up-to-date and it doesn't include all wells.

Permalink Reply by Nate Labarge on May 5, 2011 at 8:17pm

Boy that site is over a year behind......Any new wells or Declared Production Units near you Lynn in the past 12 months?

 

Spring as sprung and seems like things should be starting to pop.

 

thanks Lynn 

Permalink Reply by Lynn Wigglesworth on May 6, 2011 at 7:31am

There has been constant activity here since last summer. There are probably a dozen new wells within 2-3 miles of me in the past year. I used Landex to mark off all the units within a mile of me, and this area is pretty much filled with units. There are small slices of land (not big enough for a unit) between some of the units...I don't know why East did that, but those people are out of luck!

Permalink Reply by Nate Labarge on May 7, 2011 at 8:02am

I think you see areas between Production Units Lynn because the Production Units may chance size and shape up to when the Gas Company gets nearer to actual production. Then, they finalize the Unit. Anyone who is a "holdout" for what ever reason at that point may very well loose some or all of their Gas because of Rule of Capture law. The Gas companies, in the final determination of Unit Size and shape will plan on drilling as close to those people as they can get on all sides of them to get as much of the Gas as they can. But, in the end, most of those areas you are talking about that are now between the Units will be produced one way or the other.

Permalink Reply by Ann Ticopa on May 7, 2011 at 8:37pm

But what about this scenario?  Company A drills horizontally right along the line and the fracking extends perhaps 300' into the adjoining property.  The gas is now essentially a pool of "free" gas, under pressure, along both sides of the line.  What's to stop Company B from drilling a quick vertical well on the other side of the line and proceeding to "capture" gas?

Permalink Reply by Nate Labarge on May 7, 2011 at 8:54pm

Good question and maybe that is one example of how a Forced Pooling law would protect one or the other owners.

 

Or

 

Are you suggesting that the "Company B" is now getting gas from leased land of "Company A"?

 

Or

 

How about this: Do Gas Operators/drillers have to make public a map showing where horizontal wells are drilled?

 

Permalink Reply by Ann Ticopa on May 7, 2011 at 10:59pm

I assumed current law and interpreted "get as much gas as they can" to include drilling as close to the property lines as possible.  I don't know if a vertical well could capture enough gas to make it worthwhile.  But I'd think a company drilling along a line would have to consider that, once fracked, gas could migrate from property A. 

 

A related topic is gas migrating from storage fields and accusations that gas well operators are "poaching" it.

"Dispute over migrating gas is heating up 

Included in those acres [for a storage field buffer expansion] are nearly three dozen operating gas wells owned by other companies that, if the expansion is allowed, would have to shut down.

Shortly after filing its new application, Northern also filed suit in Pratt County District Court, charging that those producers were knowingly siphoning off its storage gas. Northern alleges actions of those producers are in fact causing the gas to migrate to their wells."

http://www.hutchnews.com/todaystop/gas-storage-dispute--1

 

 

 

 

Permalink Reply by Nate Labarge on May 8, 2011 at 8:57am

I was referring more to Lynn's comment about spaces between current Production Units and added my thoughts about people who are not leased.

 

Also, I assume that many people caught between Production Units are leased already.

 

But I do think Gas Companies will steal as much gas as they can.

 

I think that as pipelines get in place and horizontals get drilled & fracked that there will be a flurry of new Production Unit corrections filed at the court house.

Permalink Reply by G S Gass on May 5, 2011 at 8:30pm

Nate,

Good question- you will probably find that regional Production Unit maps are proprietary information.

I apologize if I'm preaching to the choir - you're probably aware that maps of each unit and a lease schedule setting forth the proportional acreage of each lease within the proposed unit are placed of record in the Recorder of Deeds Office - in order to provide public notice that a lease is being held beyond the primary term.  So Landex would be a rather cumbersome source of information.

Best,

Greg

Permalink Reply by Nate Labarge on May 5, 2011 at 9:10pm

Good to know Greg, thank you for the information.  I was hoping an independent person or website had "pasted" something together.