Butler County Lease Offers: County / Date of Offer / Royalty % / Bonus Per Acre / Acreage - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-28T22:01:00Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/butler-county-lease-offers-county-date-of-offer-royalty-bonus-per?groupUrl=butler_county&commentId=2274639%3AComment%3A530796&groupId=2274639%3AGroup%3A14354&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWhat your you prefer 8% of…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2019-06-30:2274639:Comment:8040612019-06-30T15:17:04.196Zpa landownerhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/philiplanders
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<p><span>What your you prefer 8% of 1000 dollars royalty or 12.5% of 1000 dollars royalty.</span></p>
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<p><span>Remember the landmen work for the company and their goal is not the goal of the landowner.</span></p>
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<p><span>With the bankruptcy of Edgemarc, other companies will be coming in to offer what they say is a take it or leave it deal for the right to lease underneath your property for gas and or oil extraction. The offer will be in all likelihood be along the…</span></p>
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<p><span>What your you prefer 8% of 1000 dollars royalty or 12.5% of 1000 dollars royalty.</span></p>
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<p><span>Remember the landmen work for the company and their goal is not the goal of the landowner.</span></p>
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<p><span>With the bankruptcy of Edgemarc, other companies will be coming in to offer what they say is a take it or leave it deal for the right to lease underneath your property for gas and or oil extraction. The offer will be in all likelihood be along the lines of 2 or 3 thousand per acre and 15% royalties downstream which means they can deduct transportation, marketing and other charges off of the 15%. The landowner could in all reality receive 7 or 8% after deductions.</span></p>
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<p><span>If the landowners would start talking to other landowners and ask for 12.5% royalty at wellhead then the landmen who work for the oil companies cannot say”take it or leave it” With the cracking plant coming on line in a few years the demand for the gas is going to increase dramatically.</span></p>
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<p><span>Pennsylvania and Texas are the two states with the most gas volume. In Pennsylvania, the building of the cracker plant in Monaca is being built because of access to the gas nearby. It is the same reason why a new cracker plant is being built in Belmont County, OH.</span></p>
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<p><span>While very few if any landowners hold enough property to be able to demand 12.5% royalty at the wellhead, if landowners would all demand 12.5% at wellhead and 2 or 3000 dollars per acre, then we would hold power as a group. </span></p>
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<p><span>If enough people are informed about and see the amount of monies that they would benefit then we should be talking to any and every person we know that holds mineral rights to their property.</span></p>
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<p><span>I am not a lawyer,but my first lease I negotiated the 12.5% at wellhead and 3000 dollars an acre on just 15 acres. The second time around I was offered 15% downstream with deductions and $2000.00 an acre from Edgemarc on a take or leave it basis since i had only 15 acres. Then they went belly up before signing of contract. </span></p>
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<p><span>The other problem with Edgemarc was they wanted you to sign document first. This is just another delaying tactic they use to push the monies owed to landowner out further.</span></p>
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<p>Please start the discussions with your friends and neighbors and feel free to post or send this to fellow landowners.</p> What your you prefer 8% of…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2019-06-30:2274639:Comment:8040582019-06-30T15:15:49.699Zpa landownerhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/philiplanders
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<p><span>What your you prefer 8% of 1000 dollars royalty or 12.5% of 1000 dollars royalty.</span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>Remember the landmen work for the company and their goal is not the goal of the landowner.</span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>With the bankruptcy of Edgemarc, other companies will be coming in to offer what they say is a take it or leave it deal for the right to lease underneath your property for gas and or oil extraction. The offer will be in all likelihood be along the…</span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>What your you prefer 8% of 1000 dollars royalty or 12.5% of 1000 dollars royalty.</span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>Remember the landmen work for the company and their goal is not the goal of the landowner.</span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>With the bankruptcy of Edgemarc, other companies will be coming in to offer what they say is a take it or leave it deal for the right to lease underneath your property for gas and or oil extraction. The offer will be in all likelihood be along the lines of 2 or 3 thousand per acre and 15% royalties downstream which means they can deduct transportation, marketing and other charges off of the 15%. The landowner could in all reality receive 7 or 8% after deductions.</span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>If the landowners would start talking to other landowners and ask for 12.5% royalty at wellhead then the landmen who work for the oil companies cannot say”take it or leave it” With the cracking plant coming on line in a few years the demand for the gas is going to increase dramatically.</span></p>
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<p><span>Pennsylvania and Texas are the two states with the most gas volume. In Pennsylvania, the building of the cracker plant in Monaca is being built because of access to the gas nearby. It is the same reason why a new cracker plant is being built in Belmont County, OH.</span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>While very few if any landowners hold enough property to be able to demand 12.5% royalty at the wellhead, if landowners would all demand 12.5% at wellhead and 2 or 3000 dollars per acre, then we would hold power as a group. </span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>If enough people are informed about and see the amount of monies that they would benefit then we should be talking to any and every person we know that holds mineral rights to their property.</span></p>
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<p><span>I am not a lawyer,but my first lease I negotiated the 12.5% at wellhead and 3000 dollars an acre on just 15 acres. The second time around I was offered 15% downstream with deductions and $2000.00 an acre from Edgemarc on a take or leave it basis since i had only 15 acres. Then they went belly up before signing of contract. </span></p>
<p></p>
<p><span>The other problem with Edgemarc was they wanted you to sign document first. This is just another delaying tactic they use to push the monies owed to landowner out further.</span></p>
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<p>Please start the discussions with your friends and neighbors and feel free to post or send this to fellow landowners.</p> Chuck,
Curious to know who wo…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2014-11-01:2274639:Comment:6362682014-11-01T16:35:45.864ZRBhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/RoseAnnBauer
<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>Curious to know who would suggest you not disclose terms and why.</p>
<p>RB</p>
<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>Curious to know who would suggest you not disclose terms and why.</p>
<p>RB</p> Pete, if you are still intere…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2014-09-22:2274639:Comment:6258622014-09-22T13:29:10.885ZMatthew Williamshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/MatthewWilliams740
<p>Pete, if you are still interested, and I see this post is a little dated give America's Choice Royalty Services a call. My neighbor just went through them and got a nice chunk for his mineral rights!</p>
<p>Pete, if you are still interested, and I see this post is a little dated give America's Choice Royalty Services a call. My neighbor just went through them and got a nice chunk for his mineral rights!</p> Understandable. Not sure why…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2014-09-22:2274639:Comment:6260872014-09-22T13:27:49.451ZMatthew Williamshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/MatthewWilliams740
<p>Understandable. Not sure why the Landman could not work with him. If you ever need help with leasing or selling or know anyone who does have them try America's Choice Royalty Services. They help landowners in this situation. They have good relationships with the big companies but work for the landowner solely. </p>
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<p>Understandable. Not sure why the Landman could not work with him. If you ever need help with leasing or selling or know anyone who does have them try America's Choice Royalty Services. They help landowners in this situation. They have good relationships with the big companies but work for the landowner solely. </p>
<p></p> If you need help with your le…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2014-09-22:2274639:Comment:6260862014-09-22T13:15:06.619ZMatthew Williamshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/MatthewWilliams740
<p>If you need help with your lease. You can always check out America's Choice Royalty Services. They help with leases and Sells and do not charge a hourly fee. In fact they take care of any and all marketing expenses at no cost to the land owner. </p>
<p>If you need help with your lease. You can always check out America's Choice Royalty Services. They help with leases and Sells and do not charge a hourly fee. In fact they take care of any and all marketing expenses at no cost to the land owner. </p> I do not remember the land ma…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2014-09-21:2274639:Comment:6260472014-09-21T23:07:09.417Zmercersailorhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/mercersailor
<p>I do not remember the land mans name. I could not find a card. I do not recommend him. However you may have to deal with him. I ended up having my lawyer (SR Law) get into a fight including going over his head to his bosses. The land man repeated said he could not work with SR law. I ended up signing for 2500 an acre. the Lawyer said she expected to be able to get other leases done and worked out with this guy. I stongly recommend a lawyer. the fact he couldn't work with them was because the…</p>
<p>I do not remember the land mans name. I could not find a card. I do not recommend him. However you may have to deal with him. I ended up having my lawyer (SR Law) get into a fight including going over his head to his bosses. The land man repeated said he could not work with SR law. I ended up signing for 2500 an acre. the Lawyer said she expected to be able to get other leases done and worked out with this guy. I stongly recommend a lawyer. the fact he couldn't work with them was because the land owner protections were to strong. quote from the land man.</p>
<p></p> Thanks, I own some acreage in…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2014-09-21:2274639:Comment:6255892014-09-21T02:01:20.117Zjameshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/jamespartridge
Thanks, I own some acreage in Irwin township Venango county which is only a few miles from these town ships in Butler county, didn't know if they would be interested in leasing mine.
Thanks, I own some acreage in Irwin township Venango county which is only a few miles from these town ships in Butler county, didn't know if they would be interested in leasing mine. smitty,
I had no idea SR Law…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2014-09-20:2274639:Comment:6252082014-09-20T00:02:59.088ZOliver Perryhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/OliverPerry
<p>smitty,</p>
<p>I had no idea SR Law was into this "marketing agreement" crap. I don't like this particular approach to leasing.</p>
<p>Philip has substantial experience in leasing, and I believe I would take his advice concerning an attorney. </p>
<p>smitty,</p>
<p>I had no idea SR Law was into this "marketing agreement" crap. I don't like this particular approach to leasing.</p>
<p>Philip has substantial experience in leasing, and I believe I would take his advice concerning an attorney. </p> "Bouncer" WAS a cute pup. Un…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2014-09-19:2274639:Comment:6252942014-09-19T18:04:40.521ZPhilip Thackrayhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/PhilipThackray
<p>"Bouncer" WAS a cute pup. Unfortunately he departed this Earth some time ago.</p>
<p>Wil White's mother Mary Jo White was a vice-president at Quaker State Corporation and later a PA State Senator. She had a lot to do with PA's favorable legal attitude towards Oil and Gas.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Phil</p>
<p>"Bouncer" WAS a cute pup. Unfortunately he departed this Earth some time ago.</p>
<p>Wil White's mother Mary Jo White was a vice-president at Quaker State Corporation and later a PA State Senator. She had a lot to do with PA's favorable legal attitude towards Oil and Gas.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Phil</p>