Forced pooling - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-29T05:42:12Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/forced-pooling?groupUrl=crawford-county-pa&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNo t won't be 0 bonus and 12…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-09-07:2274639:Comment:4945752013-09-07T14:25:06.485Zmelissa humphreyhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/melissahumphrey
<p>No t won't be 0 bonus and 12.5% in PA</p>
<p>Forced pooling means non-operating energy cos can bid for leases andd force those parcls inti units.</p>
<p>Lease value will go way up.</p>
<p>Don't man to be so harsh but the masses need to RAISE their knowledge levels are operate in a realistic fashion. NOW.</p>
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<p>YAW nor no one can change laws to out of the blue move economics from one group to another.</p>
<p>Blunt but Bradford commissioners are backwards and doing harm.</p>
<p>No t won't be 0 bonus and 12.5% in PA</p>
<p>Forced pooling means non-operating energy cos can bid for leases andd force those parcls inti units.</p>
<p>Lease value will go way up.</p>
<p>Don't man to be so harsh but the masses need to RAISE their knowledge levels are operate in a realistic fashion. NOW.</p>
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<p>YAW nor no one can change laws to out of the blue move economics from one group to another.</p>
<p>Blunt but Bradford commissioners are backwards and doing harm.</p> Interesting 'crosshairs' to d…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-08-15:2274639:Comment:4855802013-08-15T16:37:36.191Z2z248p19vqnh9https://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_2z248p19vqnh9
<p>Interesting 'crosshairs' to discern for yourself...</p>
<p><a href="http://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/we-are-auctioning-80-acres-off-on-august-12-in-crawford-county?groupUrl=crawford-county-pa&groupId=2274639%3AGroup%3A145929&id=2274639%3ATopic%3A481420&page=3#comments">We are auctioning 80 acres off on August 12 in Crawford county. - Go Marcellus & Utica Shale: Leasing, Drilling & Mineral Rights</a>...…</p>
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<p>Interesting 'crosshairs' to discern for yourself...</p>
<p><a href="http://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/we-are-auctioning-80-acres-off-on-august-12-in-crawford-county?groupUrl=crawford-county-pa&groupId=2274639%3AGroup%3A145929&id=2274639%3ATopic%3A481420&page=3#comments">We are auctioning 80 acres off on August 12 in Crawford county. - Go Marcellus & Utica Shale: Leasing, Drilling & Mineral Rights</a>...</p>
<p><a href="http://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/corbett-s-betrayal-has-already-started-to-hurt-landowners?commentId=2274639%3AComment%3A485374">Corbett's betrayal has already started to hurt landowners. - Go Marcellus & Utica Shale: Leasing, Drilling & Mineral Rights</a>...</p>
<p>...a real 'hornet's nest'...all the world's a stage and WE are merely players (fodder for the wolves in sheep's clothing...)...</p>
<p><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/marcellus-gas-production-rising-fast-pa-w-va-063319682.html">Marcellus gas production rising fast in Pa., W.Va. - Yahoo! News</a></p>
<p>As one light lights another, nor grows less - so nobleness enkindles nobleness. DON'T become embroiled with the 'sand scattered on the floor'...FOCUS on the *main improprieties* of the G&O matters at hand. STAY FOCUSED - He who stands firm....</p> Hey, Jesse - let me put down…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-08-14:2274639:Comment:4853552013-08-14T21:39:14.289Z2z248p19vqnh9https://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_2z248p19vqnh9
<p>Hey, Jesse - let me put down the Cabela's 'logue for a moment to answer...Like I said - haven't been about for awhile, know ya'll missed me & Frank, SO after reading through a few old posts & 'connect the dots' between this, that, & the other thing...</p>
<p>...and reading on Russia's 'Revolution' (they still haven't 'gotten it together yet' as good as what our 'broken down GERBIL wheel' that we're spinnin' around on in these here parts...) & visiting the Flagship Niagara…</p>
<p>Hey, Jesse - let me put down the Cabela's 'logue for a moment to answer...Like I said - haven't been about for awhile, know ya'll missed me & Frank, SO after reading through a few old posts & 'connect the dots' between this, that, & the other thing...</p>
<p>...and reading on Russia's 'Revolution' (they still haven't 'gotten it together yet' as good as what our 'broken down GERBIL wheel' that we're spinnin' around on in these here parts...) & visiting the Flagship Niagara (that's where the 'I-79 SWAMP overpass' came in - EXPENSIVE!!! - WHY didn't it go over DRY land? - SWAMP for God's sake?!!!), THEN re-visiting the War of 1812 as well as the French Revolution...and THEN re-connecting the 'dots' to TODAY (of course after Hitler's being voted in the USA as 'Man of the Year in 1933') +++ and THAT is where 'the more things change the more they stay the same'...WHAT'S NEW??? Not much - just the names, dates, +++ ...</p>
<p>...HORNET'S NEST, this Corbett matter, ain't it? WHY 'take it'? Who is HE to just SHOVE IT DOWN EVERYONE'S THROATS??? He is you, you are me, I am you...and so on & so on. THAT is where the good ole' GOLDEN RULE comes into play, eh?...recall that one?</p>
<p>Do unto others as YOU WOULD HAVE *THEM* DO UNTO YOU. Pretty clear-cut & dry.</p>
<p>RIGHT IS RIGHT, AND WRONG IS WRONG - no two ways about it...and YOU say?...</p>
<p>As one light lights another, nor grows less - so nobleness enkindles nobleness. Back to grillin' my fillets....</p>
<p>good hearin' from you, Jes'...the manic phase I leave to you...wear it well...perry....</p> ...Been a while, been quite s…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-08-14:2274639:Comment:4851472013-08-14T03:05:44.819Z2z248p19vqnh9https://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_2z248p19vqnh9
<p>...Been a while, been quite some 'time' now (but NOT 'LONG' in the 'essence of 'time' itself, eh?...)...all around the mulberry bush...the O & G Co. are signin' & drillin'...and 'pop' goes the GAS WELL top! (and all that sweet crude + gushes out the wellhead...and WHERE/WHO are 'the weasels'?</p>
<p>Corbett, Shell Hillcorp, HalCON, frack til you crack (to the bone...)...nothin' like a good T-Bone, slim pickins, squeeze the landowner bone dry...the law is 'on your side' for EVERY…</p>
<p>...Been a while, been quite some 'time' now (but NOT 'LONG' in the 'essence of 'time' itself, eh?...)...all around the mulberry bush...the O & G Co. are signin' & drillin'...and 'pop' goes the GAS WELL top! (and all that sweet crude + gushes out the wellhead...and WHERE/WHO are 'the weasels'?</p>
<p>Corbett, Shell Hillcorp, HalCON, frack til you crack (to the bone...)...nothin' like a good T-Bone, slim pickins, squeeze the landowner bone dry...the law is 'on your side' for EVERY 'last dime' - so the 'offering plate' gets passed around, EVERYONE 'give/do/DONATE' your share...so the rich can just get richer (while your children just sit humbly & blankly stare). Over the river & through the woods - across (under & over) YOUR LAND we'll go...to lay down the pipe that carries the SLUDGE to refiners of this sideshow...NOW everything's good. All is 'WELL' & fine...just be humble & overly understanding, and you'll get yours in your own good time.</p>
<p>Just can't get enough - no...they just can't get enough (NO, they can't)...just can't get enough - GIVE IT HERE! They JUST CAN'T 'get enough' (of YOU & yours...). Turnips from the stone...Arthur pulled the sword from the stone (so can you...)....so close - and yet, so, SO 'far away'...you CAN'T always get what you W-ant,,,(no you can't!...BUT you sure can TRY!)...just CAN'T always get WHAT YOU W-A-NT...but you sure can cry...sticks & stones will break my bones but gas wells shall never hurt me....</p>
<p>Nobody loves me, everybody hates me...guess I'll go eat worms - big fat little ones...little wee skinny ones...oh, how my heart yearns...BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR - YOU MIGHT just 'get it'...they just don't 'get it'. </p>
<p>The French Revolution, the War of 1812, the War of Independence, the Civil War, WWI, Russian Revolution...on & on & on...make sense of this, make sense of that...the more things change - the more they stay the same...Change & Adapt...to each their own? Oh, yes - to each their own. Yes, yes - that's it (ask Corbett - he agrees...)...time DOES tell...I think. What do YOU think? No one likes the feeling of being held tight 'in a cage'....</p>
<p>As one light lights another, nor grows less - so one light lights another. *Interesting re-reading older 'posts/writings' & THEN where 'things are NOW GOING'...what has changed/what has stayed the same...very, very interesting...reading & *noting the dates of various writings and then reading 'current posts' which THEN become 'yesterday's news'...only the 'good things' stay the same. ***read through these posts...what was 'said/unsaid'...WHERE are we now?...</p>
<p>Four foods that lats forever...honey, sugar, rice, & salt - perfect makings of the latest, greatest 'monster mash'! - add a drop of oil to the mix & what do ya' got? G&O slop!</p>
<p>WATCH...be wise. There is MUCH UNKNOWN afoot in them thar' hills...protect your own - no one else will. Still think that there is MUCH 'unsaid' in the 'plans' of O&G 'men' concerning 'you & yours' ownership of property...ALWAYS found it bizarre how I-79 crossed over Geneva swamp...believe a Senator or Governor owned that 'swamp property' AFTER buying it *ON THE CHEAP from the farm owners...and THEN, miraculously I-79 just happened to get built *RIGHT ACROSS that SWAMPY AREA...think about that. Just something to think about....</p>
<p></p> Looks to me like this shows s…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-26:2274639:Comment:4407502013-04-26T21:53:20.557ZBob Jennesshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/BobJenness
<p>Looks to me like this shows some real progress for landowner interests. What's not to like about bigger royalties, good (if not great) bonus payments, and making sure minority O&G interests don't slow down the unitization process? I'd still rather be offered a fat lease, but I sure wish PA would send this message to certain "majority" HBP holders, to let them know that they can't use big oil economics to bully unleased landowners, and to minority holders to let them know they have to…</p>
<p>Looks to me like this shows some real progress for landowner interests. What's not to like about bigger royalties, good (if not great) bonus payments, and making sure minority O&G interests don't slow down the unitization process? I'd still rather be offered a fat lease, but I sure wish PA would send this message to certain "majority" HBP holders, to let them know that they can't use big oil economics to bully unleased landowners, and to minority holders to let them know they have to play the holdout game under rules that are fair to landowners.</p> Two more forced pooling cases…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-26:2274639:Comment:4405442013-04-26T01:35:15.633ZDavid Hunthttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/DavidHunt
<p>Two more forced pooling cases in Ohio.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lexology.com%2Flibrary%2Fdetail.aspx%3Fg%3D6977ee39-79c4-4031-8522-911d0ff7e805&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEnhbuQ6oqNCITDsS8D-3v5KTG4AQ" target="_blank">http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=6977ee39-79c4-4031-8522-911d0ff7e805</a></p>
<p>Two more forced pooling cases in Ohio.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lexology.com%2Flibrary%2Fdetail.aspx%3Fg%3D6977ee39-79c4-4031-8522-911d0ff7e805&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNEnhbuQ6oqNCITDsS8D-3v5KTG4AQ" target="_blank">http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=6977ee39-79c4-4031-8522-911d0ff7e805</a></p> Sam,
Amen to the "lobbying gr…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-23:2274639:Comment:4390012013-04-23T11:58:51.558ZBob Jennesshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/BobJenness
<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Amen to the "lobbying group" prayer. I constantly wonder why our landowner groups don't grab hold of this opportunity, or perhaps spin off such a group. There are so many topics ripe for some landowner-centric communications to OUR Governments.</p>
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<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Amen to the "lobbying group" prayer. I constantly wonder why our landowner groups don't grab hold of this opportunity, or perhaps spin off such a group. There are so many topics ripe for some landowner-centric communications to OUR Governments.</p>
<p></p> But you retain an operating i…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-17:2274639:Comment:4350922013-04-17T21:41:41.989Zsldouglasshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/sldouglass
But you retain an operating interest and get a share of what the producer gets after the contribution you would have made to drilling costs is earned back with interest. You end up with both a royalty interest and a producer interest. The producers are not interested in having partners like this. They will be trying to get a new statute that is favorable to the industry at some point. Too bad there is no strong landowner lobbying group.
But you retain an operating interest and get a share of what the producer gets after the contribution you would have made to drilling costs is earned back with interest. You end up with both a royalty interest and a producer interest. The producers are not interested in having partners like this. They will be trying to get a new statute that is favorable to the industry at some point. Too bad there is no strong landowner lobbying group. WHO are you, Jesse? What do Y…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-13:2274639:Comment:4315382013-04-13T02:13:59.335Z2z248p19vqnh9https://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_2z248p19vqnh9
<p>WHO are you, Jesse? What do YOU 'contribute' except YOUR 'tantrums'? My gas is as good as yours - or should I say 'hot air'?...touche'...</p>
<p>As one light lights another, nor grows less - so nobleness enkindles nobleness. Tit for Tat...it is YOU who...simpleton? Never mind.... make up your own mind for YOURSELVES, USA PEOPLE! I can take the 'hotheads' on this site - YOU need to learn to SIFT for yourselves. ENDEAVOR.</p>
<p>WHO are you, Jesse? What do YOU 'contribute' except YOUR 'tantrums'? My gas is as good as yours - or should I say 'hot air'?...touche'...</p>
<p>As one light lights another, nor grows less - so nobleness enkindles nobleness. Tit for Tat...it is YOU who...simpleton? Never mind.... make up your own mind for YOURSELVES, USA PEOPLE! I can take the 'hotheads' on this site - YOU need to learn to SIFT for yourselves. ENDEAVOR.</p> David - have land elsewhere -…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-13:2274639:Comment:4316362013-04-13T02:08:57.276Z2z248p19vqnh9https://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_2z248p19vqnh9
<p>David - have land elsewhere - and heard the same thing. Interesting what Sam Orr said concerning the Marcellus vs. Utica...it IS a turbulent issue - if anything, for the LANDOWNER'S MIND. Somewhat unnecessary torture (to the landowner...) if you ask me. Check mate to the mind - there wasn't THIS kind of information (GMS) for people until *not too long ago! *Remember THAT!...and It has *expanded!!!</p>
<p>There's more than enough land to go around...how about THIS thought - that IF there is…</p>
<p>David - have land elsewhere - and heard the same thing. Interesting what Sam Orr said concerning the Marcellus vs. Utica...it IS a turbulent issue - if anything, for the LANDOWNER'S MIND. Somewhat unnecessary torture (to the landowner...) if you ask me. Check mate to the mind - there wasn't THIS kind of information (GMS) for people until *not too long ago! *Remember THAT!...and It has *expanded!!!</p>
<p>There's more than enough land to go around...how about THIS thought - that IF there is 'forced pooling', then the $/acre bonus IS granted - it is a combination of ALL of the $/acre paid for all the other acreage IN the 'drilling unit' divided by # of total acres = amount of 'bonus $/acre' for the landowner (***OR minimum of $500/acre bonus to 'forced pool' landowner...they ARE being 'FORCED'! - should be compensated! not penalized for 'holding out' for what THEY believe is RIGHT!) - SAME goes with the 'royalty%'...or however...but the landowner should NOT be 'penalized' like that.</p>
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<p>Yes, Gary Smith - it IS good to 'stick with a group' - but from what I am hearing, these 'groups' can be quite large. THAT is not bad, BUT here is an additional idea that may also aid in individual landowner's getting what's right for themselves...</p>
<p>Let's take Mercer Co. - bad news!...and the same 'Co.' operating in Crawford?...Hmmm - buyer beware.</p>
<p>Crawford Co. - how many acres? Big area, right? 'WELL'...within these 'landgroup' things - there are people from 'x', 'y', 'z' township...if possible - units of 'neighbors' OF those various townships could 'band together' into MANAGEABLE areas of 640 +/- (one square mile...acreage...) acres. THIS - compartmentalizing land areas (leased AND unleased...grouping them together previously...simplification)...MAY be an advantage & manageable solution to getting things RIGHT for the LANDOWNER is (for landowners!) what it's ALL about!</p>
<p>Think it over...may be a solution - if it doesn't already exist. Always good to take the bull by the horns & NOT be a 'captive audience' (but sometimes - push come to shove DOES take precedence...check mate.).</p>
<p>As one light lights another, nor grows less - so nobleness enkindles nobleness.</p>