The English language is sometimes very confusing.  What seems innocent to one person is totally inappropriate to another.  Take the word, "There."  Their,  They're. Easy to confuse the meanings of each spelling of this word.     These chat groups are taking great care as to what is being posted.     Any comments?        Granddad Ladd 

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Well thank you Mr. Cramdon  for your permission, not that I really need it!    Here is a task for you. Please be kind enough to list all the great things he has done for Appalachia and be kind enough to provide documentation.  And explain why does he need help from other countries in order to ensure he wins the presidential election?  Can't he do it on his own? and if not, why not?

It has been said, "If you tell someone something enough times, eventually they will believe it even if it is a falsehood."   

Again...... I thank you for your INPUT to this site.  History will tell how it all turns out. 

Granddad Ladd

Appalachia / PA has thrived like it hasn't for many , many years ......... 

 Just to the west of Tioga lies some of the BEST gas wells in the world ......and plenty of locals have been given a second chance in life to get their economic house into a better situation ........

 Look at the tax receipts PA residents have received from the industry ,,,the would all be gone if the Dem's have their way ...... 

 How do you heat your home ? Gas ? Oil ? Wood ? 

 Gas / oil prices would go up ten fold and they love to ban wood burning as well ...... Solar panels in Appalachia ??? FUNNY !  

If you listen to the accusations from the democrats you realize that is exactly what they are guilty of. Trump will be able to clean this Socialist attack on our country up in his second term.

My thoughts had much more to do with the character then the political differences.  If you are working with a group or individual, wouldn't it be best to find answers suitable to every one rather to make nasty remarks and possibly killing your chances of advancing your position or  respect in the group?

Granddad Ladd

Unemployment rate at 3.5% 

 More of your fellow N PA employed than ever before in recent history ...... 

 Great pipeline jobs being created ... 

 Farmers getting royalty checks .. 

 All of this and more  will be GONE if the Dems have their way and ban N Gas fracking .... 


Mr Ladd worries about ;nasty ' remarks ? 


When the Dems become civil , maybe then Pres Trump will become civil .....

Their is indeed a DEEP STATE , and I give Trump credit for TRYING to expose it ......... 
Wash is a very dirty , dirty place , it even got to the FBI and tainted their leaders ...... 

 UGLY stuff that Trump is being attacked for attempt to expose the dirt ......

Once again Mr C.   I thank you for your input.  I never said that the  "DEMS"  were perfect.   Do you think that Mr. Trump is so perfect in all that he does and says will bring peace to the world?  Looks to me as if there are  more problems then ever within the political scene. 

Royaltys  for gas and oil have dropped drastically the last few months for land owners.  Is this one of the paths, he has in mind, to bring the country back to greatness again?  Many folks started to improve their lifestyle, buying newer cars, remodeling their homes with the idea that income from leases and royaltys  from these gas and oil wells would solve the financial problems. 

Granddad Ladd

If the DEMS  had their way there never would have been a  current gas Industry in PA , take a look north to NY .... 


Royalties lower ? Tioga seems to have lesser rock quality than those west of you ... Luck of the draw .............Those in NY controlled by the Dems have gotten NOTHING ..........

A very big area of New York state is taken up be the finger lakes.  The Finger Lakes are a beautiful area to visit. There is a fear that possible contamination of these natural wonders could easily take place by major spills.  And do not forget all of the vineyards, and thousands of acres that produce the vegetable and fruits that are produced in the northern counties of the state.  I recall not being allowed to swim in  Seneca lake at the park because of contamination. This was about 1939.    It would be nice if I could take my grandchildren to these areas to experience and tell them a bit of the history of what once was!

A few years ago some areas in western New York were contaminated by the chemicals produced and the manufacturers allowed  their waste products to ruin entire towns. 

It is not hard to see why the folks of New York State do not want their beautiful state possibly destroyed by  greedy leaders regardless of their  political party.

Thank you once more for your input!

Granddad Ladd

Mr Ladd didn't you benefit from Nat Gas drilling ? 


Who gives you the right to deny those in NY the same benefits as those the benefit in PA ? 

You must have a problem reading too Paleface!

Re read the sentence from October 4th. again!  

 Aside from your inability to accurately read what was posted,  I never said that the Democrats were perfect! 

Granddad Ladd

Once again I thank you for your thoughts Mr Cramdon.  You seem to be looking at a very narrow picture of the world and the beauty it offers humanity.  Why not try looking at the entire world situation for once.  The gift of Life is worth so much more then anyone's  bank account?  It is apparent that you cannot and will not appreciate what other folks think is important in their own lives!  So sad that the only beauty you consider worth looking at are drilling rigs and hundreds of acres of ripped up areas that were the once the pride and joy of many hard working families. 

Fortunately there are folks who have the ability to foresee what could happen in their areas, neighborhoods and what has already happened in other parts of the world. They want to avoid destroying what they already have! 

And to answer your question,

"Who gives you the  right to deny those in NY the same benefits as those the benefit in PA?"

Mr Cramdon,  You are not even reading my post's or at best certainly not understanding what I am saying!  Instead, you have the  assumption I am denying New York  state the benefits of  oil and gas drilling. 

Even a mule has two choices to stand in the middle of a hornets nest of angry hornets or to move away to avoid being stung or not.

Residents in New York need to know they have two choices.  Seems like you do not want them to know the options they have!   

Have a great day Mr. Cramdon and thank you for your imput

Granddad  Ladd


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