PA Attorney General Files Charges Against CHK et al - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-28T10:00:08Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/pa-attorney-general-files-charges-against-chk-et-al?commentId=2274639%3AComment%3A709414&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIf the Attorney General's sui…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-14:2274639:Comment:7090972015-12-14T21:39:02.338ZJackie Root-CMMhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JackieRoot
<p>If the Attorney General's suit is successful certain Lessor's will be made whole and without attorney fees. Hopefully Lessors that haven't already will now file a complaint with the AG, the more that come forward the stronger the case. The Demchak v Chesapeake settlement only applies to Pennsylvania leases, clearly one of the requirements.</p>
<p>If the Attorney General's suit is successful certain Lessor's will be made whole and without attorney fees. Hopefully Lessors that haven't already will now file a complaint with the AG, the more that come forward the stronger the case. The Demchak v Chesapeake settlement only applies to Pennsylvania leases, clearly one of the requirements.</p> How do any settlements affect…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-14:2274639:Comment:7090862015-12-14T19:44:29.319ZDaniel Morrishttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/DanielMorris
<p>How do any settlements affect WV owners? Marion Co. in particular</p>
<p>How do any settlements affect WV owners? Marion Co. in particular</p> Dear All,
Perhaps the signifi…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-14:2274639:Comment:7094142015-12-14T19:11:27.081Zdaniel cohenhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/danielcohen
<p>Dear All,</p>
<p>Perhaps the significance of the A-G's action is that going forward, the lines will be more clearly drawn so that future Royalties to the landowner cannot be scammed away. As for what has happened so far, it's most likely that the landowners will receive but pennies on the stolen dollars, the law firms will make out well, and the corporations will have to restructure to avoid the crushing debts that they will be held for. No one will be held personally liable for anything,…</p>
<p>Dear All,</p>
<p>Perhaps the significance of the A-G's action is that going forward, the lines will be more clearly drawn so that future Royalties to the landowner cannot be scammed away. As for what has happened so far, it's most likely that the landowners will receive but pennies on the stolen dollars, the law firms will make out well, and the corporations will have to restructure to avoid the crushing debts that they will be held for. No one will be held personally liable for anything, jail time is probably out of the question, and the heads of the corporations will try to be more clever next time. To the small guy (you & me) we will not be made whole, but possibly can look forward to less cheating and outright theft.</p>
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<p>Dan C.</p> Anyone else wondering if Ches…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-13:2274639:Comment:7091652015-12-13T14:53:00.857ZTyler Hhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/TylerHerget
Anyone else wondering if Chesapeake ends up going bankrupt before this shakedown finalizes? Short sale anyone?<br />
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Also it's usually a tell that the writer is either ignorant or anti drilling when they refer to everything as fracking but that's besides the fracking point.<br />
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Also Ron Hale must be happier than the grinch the day his heart grew 3 sizes!<br />
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Chesapeake is everything that's wrong with oil and gas development with their practices and makes an industry with enough enemies as is more enemies.…
Anyone else wondering if Chesapeake ends up going bankrupt before this shakedown finalizes? Short sale anyone?<br />
<br />
Also it's usually a tell that the writer is either ignorant or anti drilling when they refer to everything as fracking but that's besides the fracking point.<br />
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Also Ron Hale must be happier than the grinch the day his heart grew 3 sizes!<br />
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Chesapeake is everything that's wrong with oil and gas development with their practices and makes an industry with enough enemies as is more enemies. I'm hoping they get bought out by someone else so we never have to hear about them again (Ron Hale).<br />
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Happy Holidays! All the landmen and executive…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-11:2274639:Comment:7088902015-12-11T17:37:13.369ZJerryhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Jerry190
All the landmen and executives have gotten their pays, commissions, and bonuses, and no one will be held personally responsible. Companies dont break the law, people do. CHK will probably just appeal over and over again, dragging it out forever, or might just go belly up and restart under another name. One thing I've learned about crooks, is that they're always ready to launch a new scheme. I hope they put some real teeth in this judgement and go after the parties that authorized the "creative…
All the landmen and executives have gotten their pays, commissions, and bonuses, and no one will be held personally responsible. Companies dont break the law, people do. CHK will probably just appeal over and over again, dragging it out forever, or might just go belly up and restart under another name. One thing I've learned about crooks, is that they're always ready to launch a new scheme. I hope they put some real teeth in this judgement and go after the parties that authorized the "creative accounting". Thank you, Jackie. Following…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-10:2274639:Comment:7085932015-12-10T20:18:01.966ZFrank Walkerhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/FrankWalker
<p>Thank you, Jackie. Following your lead, for whatever help it might be to distressed Ohio landowners:</p>
<p>An important part of the spearhead leading to this most recent action against Chesapeake came not at the local level, and not at the state level, but at the county level. Bradford County is the second largest county in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, only slightly smaller in land area than the State of Rhode Island. It also is the county with the most intense natural gas…</p>
<p>Thank you, Jackie. Following your lead, for whatever help it might be to distressed Ohio landowners:</p>
<p>An important part of the spearhead leading to this most recent action against Chesapeake came not at the local level, and not at the state level, but at the county level. Bradford County is the second largest county in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, only slightly smaller in land area than the State of Rhode Island. It also is the county with the most intense natural gas development. These things came together and proved helpful, as follows:</p>
<p>All the anger, from so many cheated landowners, was focused like a laser beam on just three individuals, the Bradford County Commissioners. They acted unanimously with a formal request to the PA Attorney General to investigate Chesapeake.</p>
<p>Because I live in Pennsylvania, I do not know Ohio very well. But I suspect the counties there are smaller. This diffuses dissatisfaction across many more county leaders than was the case in Bradford County, PA. That's not good for landowners, but it is a fact of life. If, in Ohio, a number of producing counties could somehow be brought together, <strong>could be united and speak with a single voice</strong>, to act in concert with a demand for justice, perhaps something akin to what happened in Pennsylvania could be accomplished.</p>
<p>Short of that, I'm afraid the gas company's "divide and conquer" strategy will continue to bear fruit.</p> Very well said Frank. For Ohi…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-10:2274639:Comment:7088432015-12-10T15:09:35.258ZJackie Root-CMMhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JackieRoot
<p>Very well said Frank. For Ohio mineral owners... this was a long process and it will take some organization and persistence to be heard. Don't give up, you need to organize and educate those affected, help them feel empowered to act. NARO PA (National Association of Royalty Owners, PA Chapter) has a strong network of members in the Northeast that meet several times year for just that, education and valuable networking. We have encouraged members and other to take an active role in managing…</p>
<p>Very well said Frank. For Ohio mineral owners... this was a long process and it will take some organization and persistence to be heard. Don't give up, you need to organize and educate those affected, help them feel empowered to act. NARO PA (National Association of Royalty Owners, PA Chapter) has a strong network of members in the Northeast that meet several times year for just that, education and valuable networking. We have encouraged members and other to take an active role in managing their mineral assets, they won't always prevail but they will never prevail if they sit helplessly by and do nothing. Take your leases and royalty checks to the capitol, show your elected officials what is happening, file complaints with the AG. </p> This is very good news, long…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-10:2274639:Comment:7085752015-12-10T10:40:18.256ZFrank Walkerhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/FrankWalker
<p>This is very good news, long overdue. It is good news for Chesapeake Lessors, of course.</p>
<p>But more important for many of us, it is great news in that it sends a signal to other gas companies operating in PA that lying and cheating, as widely practiced by Chesapeake, will not simply be tolerated.</p>
<p>Tolerance by government, for such corporate behavior, can all too easily be interpreted as encouragement to engage in that behavior. And that is not a good thing for landowners. So…</p>
<p>This is very good news, long overdue. It is good news for Chesapeake Lessors, of course.</p>
<p>But more important for many of us, it is great news in that it sends a signal to other gas companies operating in PA that lying and cheating, as widely practiced by Chesapeake, will not simply be tolerated.</p>
<p>Tolerance by government, for such corporate behavior, can all too easily be interpreted as encouragement to engage in that behavior. And that is not a good thing for landowners. So it's wonderful that Chesapeake is receiving some push back from the PA Attorney General. Let's hope other gas companies are paying attention . . and you can bet they are!! </p> Ok, here is a bit of info I l…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-10:2274639:Comment:7085712015-12-10T05:01:39.735Zsearcheronehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JanetConn
<p>Ok, here is a bit of info I learned just this week. I attended a presentation by the Belmont and Monroe Ohio extension offices on the pros and cons of selling minerals and selling royalties. No mineral buyers or representatives were present. Extension personnel and a lawyer did the presentation. Of course some other questions were asked. </p>
<p>Now the following is my retelling of what was stated and obviously I am not a lawyer. The advice was people/neighbors in a unit need to…</p>
<p>Ok, here is a bit of info I learned just this week. I attended a presentation by the Belmont and Monroe Ohio extension offices on the pros and cons of selling minerals and selling royalties. No mineral buyers or representatives were present. Extension personnel and a lawyer did the presentation. Of course some other questions were asked. </p>
<p>Now the following is my retelling of what was stated and obviously I am not a lawyer. The advice was people/neighbors in a unit need to work closely together and if they feel something is wrong with the royalties, deductions etc have an audit done. Then CPAs begin to compare notes, see patterns and start talking to other people who can do something about it, namely the Attorney General's office.</p>
<p>The following is my opinion from what was said evidence has to be gathered and a pattern of fraud, theft, deception whatever the problem is needs to be seen. So folks of southeast Ohio and eastern Ohio love your neighbors, work together and don't allow the "good ole boys and gals" to win. Talk with other units who have the same oil and gas company as your lease. Work together to make a giant squeaky wheel that will get greased well!</p> Patrick, Elder abuse! When la…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2015-12-10:2274639:Comment:7086402015-12-10T02:33:52.808ZTim Tarrhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/TimothyTarr
Patrick, Elder abuse! When law was written 60 was "old". LOL
Patrick, Elder abuse! When law was written 60 was "old". LOL