Should there be a limit on long they can flare a well? - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-29T05:38:50Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/should-there-be-a-limit-on-long-they-can-flare-a-well?feed=yes&xn_auth=noThis from the original articl…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-01-03:2274639:Comment:2174972012-01-03T15:54:42.919ZMudhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/ChadBenedict
<p>This from the original article:</p>
<blockquote><p>The gas coming from the wells is 97 percent methane, according to an analysis in the permit application, with ethane, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, propane, butane, and sulfur composing the rest.</p>
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<p>There's no mention of water there. Does that get excluded from the analysis or something since they are trying to find out what else is there? I agree they should be paying royalties for what they have illegally burned off.…</p>
<p>This from the original article:</p>
<blockquote><p>The gas coming from the wells is 97 percent methane, according to an analysis in the permit application, with ethane, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, propane, butane, and sulfur composing the rest.</p>
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<p>There's no mention of water there. Does that get excluded from the analysis or something since they are trying to find out what else is there? I agree they should be paying royalties for what they have illegally burned off. Those are the landowner's biggest checks going up in smoke. Dunno what a judge would say because law isn't always related to fairness but it would be the right thing to do. </p>
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</blockquote> The fact that the poor soul w…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-01-02:2274639:Comment:2177172012-01-02T23:20:16.768Z2s72s0k9mm8gdhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_2s72s0k9mm8gd
<p>The fact that the poor soul who owns the land is losing out on this well is what is troublesome to me. But , hopefully , there will be many more future wells to draw from. That's the breaks I guess. The couple wells drilled in my area are close to a Tennessee Pipeline so that might explain them not being flared off so long. Thanks Homer.</p>
<p>The fact that the poor soul who owns the land is losing out on this well is what is troublesome to me. But , hopefully , there will be many more future wells to draw from. That's the breaks I guess. The couple wells drilled in my area are close to a Tennessee Pipeline so that might explain them not being flared off so long. Thanks Homer.</p> I understand that they need t…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-01-02:2274639:Comment:2176232012-01-02T23:04:42.103ZPhilip Brutzhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/PhilipBrutz
<p>I understand that they need to flare off water and other byproducts. They also need to establish if the well produces enough to justify spending 100 million dollars on a pipeline. My question is who pays for the gas that is flared off for months? If it is not spelled out in the lease then the mineral owner gets nothing for the most productive period of the wells life.</p>
<p>I understand that they need to flare off water and other byproducts. They also need to establish if the well produces enough to justify spending 100 million dollars on a pipeline. My question is who pays for the gas that is flared off for months? If it is not spelled out in the lease then the mineral owner gets nothing for the most productive period of the wells life.</p> http://www.register-herald.co…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-01-02:2274639:Comment:2176132012-01-02T19:43:00.419ZPhilip Brutzhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/PhilipBrutz
<p><a href="http://www.register-herald.com/business/x1818099626/Gas-pipeline-will-run-from-Nicholas-to-Braxton-counties" target="_blank">http://www.register-herald.com/business/x1818099626/Gas-pipeline-will-run-from-Nicholas-to-Braxton-counties</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.register-herald.com/business/x1818099626/Gas-pipeline-will-run-from-Nicholas-to-Braxton-counties" target="_blank">http://www.register-herald.com/business/x1818099626/Gas-pipeline-will-run-from-Nicholas-to-Braxton-counties</a></p> RE: "They could be burning of…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-17:2274639:Comment:2107392011-12-17T02:58:15.041ZJack Strawhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JosephHawk
<p>RE: "They could be burning off the gas to get to the oil?"</p>
<p>If oil were present, it would have been detected on the Gas Chromatograph in the Mud Loggers unit while drilling the Marcellus.</p>
<p>If oil were present, you would not need to flare for 108 days to detect its presence.</p>
<p>Still a mystery to me why they would feel it necessary to flare for so long; unless it was three wells, each sequentially flared for thirty-six days.</p>
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<p>All in my humble opinion.</p>
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<p>RE: "They could be burning off the gas to get to the oil?"</p>
<p>If oil were present, it would have been detected on the Gas Chromatograph in the Mud Loggers unit while drilling the Marcellus.</p>
<p>If oil were present, you would not need to flare for 108 days to detect its presence.</p>
<p>Still a mystery to me why they would feel it necessary to flare for so long; unless it was three wells, each sequentially flared for thirty-six days.</p>
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<p>All in my humble opinion.</p>
<p>One size fits most.</p>
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<p>JS</p> The way I see it the O&G…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-17:2274639:Comment:2107382011-12-17T02:39:01.702Z2s72s0k9mm8gdhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_2s72s0k9mm8gd
<p>The way I see it the O&G is breaking the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LAW</span></strong> by exceeding the 30 days <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">PERIOD</span></strong>. Thus they should be held accountable to the landowner for every cubic inch of gas wasted after the allowed 30 day period. Bet a good lawyer could run with this and get them compensated and himself paid as part of the damages...IN THE LEASE OR NOT. Sounds like a Law Suit in the…</p>
<p>The way I see it the O&G is breaking the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">LAW</span></strong> by exceeding the 30 days <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">PERIOD</span></strong>. Thus they should be held accountable to the landowner for every cubic inch of gas wasted after the allowed 30 day period. Bet a good lawyer could run with this and get them compensated and himself paid as part of the damages...IN THE LEASE OR NOT. Sounds like a Law Suit in the making!</p>
<p>If an O&G wants to experiment then let them outright buy acreage for , say , $50,000/acre and experiment away! Don't waste some poor mans future royalties. Why should the landowner pay for this? It ain't our job to take the risk out of their endeavor!</p> They could be burning off th…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-17:2274639:Comment:2107052011-12-17T02:11:22.764Zpalefacehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/paleface
<p> They could be burning off the gas to get to the oil?</p>
<p> They could be burning off the gas to get to the oil?</p> RE: "If they are flaring it t…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-17:2274639:Comment:2104922011-12-17T01:58:07.215ZJack Strawhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JosephHawk
<p>RE: "If they are flaring it to determine flow rate and they are not paying royalties. Then should this practice be limited in the lease?":</p>
<p>Wow, it is impossible to anticipate all that might occur and accomodate that occurrance in a lease.</p>
<p>A royalty owner should certainly be upset were an opertor to do a (highly) extended well production test by way of flairing a well for an overly long period of time.</p>
<p>When a lease is negotiated, a clause could be inserted to the effect…</p>
<p>RE: "If they are flaring it to determine flow rate and they are not paying royalties. Then should this practice be limited in the lease?":</p>
<p>Wow, it is impossible to anticipate all that might occur and accomodate that occurrance in a lease.</p>
<p>A royalty owner should certainly be upset were an opertor to do a (highly) extended well production test by way of flairing a well for an overly long period of time.</p>
<p>When a lease is negotiated, a clause could be inserted to the effect that "Should a well be flared/production tested beyond a total of thirty days, the production should be metered and royalties paid.".</p>
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<p>All in my humble opinion.</p>
<p>One size fits most.</p>
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<p>JS</p> If this is not addressed in t…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-16:2274639:Comment:2105822011-12-16T19:48:50.021ZPhilip Brutzhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/PhilipBrutz
<p>If this is not addressed in the lease then does the landowner with the test well lose money to prove that a play is worth developing?</p>
<p>If this is not addressed in the lease then does the landowner with the test well lose money to prove that a play is worth developing?</p> If they are flaring it to det…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2011-12-16:2274639:Comment:2104762011-12-16T19:38:13.543ZPhilip Brutzhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/PhilipBrutz
<p>If they are flaring it to determine flow rate and they are not paying royalties. Then should this practice be limited in the lease?</p>
<p>If they are flaring it to determine flow rate and they are not paying royalties. Then should this practice be limited in the lease?</p>