Water test shows Methane gas in well water - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-28T19:24:38Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/water-test-shows-methane-gas-in-well-water?commentId=2274639%3AComment%3A358326&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI think reports of "swamp gas…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-10-15:2274639:Comment:3582812012-10-15T12:29:45.571Zlandlubberhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/landlubber
<p>I think reports of "swamp gas" go back centuries...and sometimes it catches fire.</p>
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<p>I think reports of "swamp gas" go back centuries...and sometimes it catches fire.</p>
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<p></p> The pad listed on my water te…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-10-15:2274639:Comment:3583262012-10-15T11:23:16.605ZJDMhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JulieMinniti
<p>The pad listed on my water testing paperwork is Witmer....and its close to the Falb well permit....but its for Garfield and Germantown road....I'm not sure if a permit has been issued or what. And there is a ton of property owned by Witmers in Mahoning County.</p>
<p>The pad listed on my water testing paperwork is Witmer....and its close to the Falb well permit....but its for Garfield and Germantown road....I'm not sure if a permit has been issued or what. And there is a ton of property owned by Witmers in Mahoning County.</p> The only other well that I kn…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-10-09:2274639:Comment:3552732012-10-09T22:52:28.394ZCallahttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Calla
<p>The only other well that I know of in that area is Barth. I bumped them to the top of the Mahoning County forum for you.</p>
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<p>It looks like Chesapeake is planning many wells before they even apply for permits.</p>
<p>The only other well that I know of in that area is Barth. I bumped them to the top of the Mahoning County forum for you.</p>
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<p>It looks like Chesapeake is planning many wells before they even apply for permits.</p> Every piece of documentation…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-10-09:2274639:Comment:3548352012-10-09T12:08:14.497ZProfessor-JVhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JohnVinkler
<p>Every piece of documentation I have received from Chesapeak up till now. Has a well pad number and a Name for the well pad listed as Withers. There is a dairy farm that encompasses my property there name is Withers Dairy Farm. My assumption is that they plan on putting in a well in this area. I do not know this for sure and have not seen anything on the ODNR list of permits for this well. We have had just recently been contacted though about the first part of August . Does anyone know of…</p>
<p>Every piece of documentation I have received from Chesapeak up till now. Has a well pad number and a Name for the well pad listed as Withers. There is a dairy farm that encompasses my property there name is Withers Dairy Farm. My assumption is that they plan on putting in a well in this area. I do not know this for sure and have not seen anything on the ODNR list of permits for this well. We have had just recently been contacted though about the first part of August . Does anyone know of this well. Or have any idea as to where they plan on drilling in Springfield Township or Petersburg ?</p>
<p>Does any one know where or if Ni-Source Patent Midstream / Hilcorp decided on a definate route for there new pipeline in New Springfield ? We have the Tennessee pipeline running through our property now. Was wondering if they would try and reuse these same right away for there line. They wanted to survey the property last month and I have not heard anything from them since then. </p> In Eastern Ohio it is virtual…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-10-08:2274639:Comment:3546532012-10-08T21:43:11.112ZLarry Moorehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/LarryMoore
<p>In Eastern Ohio it is virtually GUARANTEED that you will have methane in your well water. This is because of the many strata of shale containing at least some organic matter. . Not to mention the wide-spread coal deposits. Anaerobic bacteria digest the organic matter (including coal and the tars found in "oil shale") and release methane as a bi-product</p>
<p>I can take you to a few places on our property where methane "bubbles up" through puddles of water. Not alot of methane, mind you,…</p>
<p>In Eastern Ohio it is virtually GUARANTEED that you will have methane in your well water. This is because of the many strata of shale containing at least some organic matter. . Not to mention the wide-spread coal deposits. Anaerobic bacteria digest the organic matter (including coal and the tars found in "oil shale") and release methane as a bi-product</p>
<p>I can take you to a few places on our property where methane "bubbles up" through puddles of water. Not alot of methane, mind you, but methane none-the-less.</p>
<p>Unless you can see bubbles in your tap water (like the fizz in sodas) . . . .Don't worry about it!!</p> When he said Whitmer well, I…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-10-08:2274639:Comment:3545922012-10-08T16:07:22.971ZCallahttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Calla
<p>When he said Whitmer well, I always thought he meant the Falb well on Garfield Rd. in Beaver Township, or possibly an unpermitted Witmer well on Garfield Rd. East of Route 46. Also in Beaver township.</p>
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<p>The only Whitmer owned property in Mahoning County is in Austintown near Mineral Ridge. I don't believe either one of you are near there. </p>
<p>Are you saying that there is a possible Withers well somewhere near 170?</p>
<p>When he said Whitmer well, I always thought he meant the Falb well on Garfield Rd. in Beaver Township, or possibly an unpermitted Witmer well on Garfield Rd. East of Route 46. Also in Beaver township.</p>
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<p>The only Whitmer owned property in Mahoning County is in Austintown near Mineral Ridge. I don't believe either one of you are near there. </p>
<p>Are you saying that there is a possible Withers well somewhere near 170?</p> We live right around the corn…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-10-08:2274639:Comment:3544682012-10-08T13:58:20.831ZProfessor-JVhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JohnVinkler
<p>We live right around the corner from you on St. Rt. 170 . Are you saying the Withers well pad ? This is what they are noting on all of my paper work. We also have a build up of methane in our well water test too. We just got our test back yesterday 10 / 7 / 2012 . Is the Whitmer well a established well or a leasehold with a permit ? What did you do about this methane gas build up. I have no idea what to do or if I should even worry about it. We have been there for 12 years and never had a…</p>
<p>We live right around the corner from you on St. Rt. 170 . Are you saying the Withers well pad ? This is what they are noting on all of my paper work. We also have a build up of methane in our well water test too. We just got our test back yesterday 10 / 7 / 2012 . Is the Whitmer well a established well or a leasehold with a permit ? What did you do about this methane gas build up. I have no idea what to do or if I should even worry about it. We have been there for 12 years and never had a problem. </p> The first thing you should do…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-09-14:2274639:Comment:3452292012-09-14T15:05:19.081Zjihttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/jamesirwin
<div id="yiv519209194yui_3_2_0_19_134763060270172">The first thing you should do is call the ODNR District Office at 330-896-0616 and report the situation to them. Even though this is a pre-drill sample, there is likely existing oil and gas wells in your area that could be possible sources. There are many things that one would need to be know in order to determine a possible source of the methane. A few of these things would be : 1) What is the concentration of methane and the other…</div>
<div id="yiv519209194yui_3_2_0_19_134763060270172">The first thing you should do is call the ODNR District Office at 330-896-0616 and report the situation to them. Even though this is a pre-drill sample, there is likely existing oil and gas wells in your area that could be possible sources. There are many things that one would need to be know in order to determine a possible source of the methane. A few of these things would be : 1) What is the concentration of methane and the other constituents like chloride, barium, sodium, etc. that were found in your sample. 2) Information on your water well like depth, casing, and the geologic formations drilled thru . A drillers water well log would be ideal but may be unavailable. There are water well logs on the ODNR water well log site (<a href="http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/water/maptechs/wellogs/app/" target="_blank">http://www.dnr.state.oh.us/water/maptechs/wellogs/app/</a>) that may be helpful. 3) The geology of the area regarding coal and other natural methane bearing formations. 4) Any past or present agriculture, commercial or industrial man-made activities nearby. 5) history of methane in ground water in your area. 5) if there are nearby oil and gas wells, the well log and records for the well. </div>
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<div id="yiv519209194yui_3_2_0_19_134763060270172" class="yui_3_2_0_16_134763408377568">These are some of the things needed to help identify and evaluate your situation. It is hard to say anything about the source or hazard that exists without some of this info. Don't relie only on one source of help. ODNR is good but can be a little complacent sometimes. The Mahoning County Health Dept is also a good source for help since they regulate private water wells. I can give you a good contact there. If you want I would be happy to help you get the information needed for your situation, just friend me on this site and we can exchange some info. </div> Methane is located all throug…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-09-14:2274639:Comment:3452142012-09-14T11:32:38.512Zownerhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Mark161
<p>Methane is located all throughout the ground, especially below the water table of any area. It is not just located at the deeper depths that the gas companies are after. Anerobic decomposition of matter results in the creation of methane. A lot of water contamination occurs when people drill water wells for drinking water. </p>
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<p>Methane is odorless, colorless and explosive in the 5-15% concentration in normal oxygen concentrations (21%). The best remedy is to vent the gas…</p>
<p>Methane is located all throughout the ground, especially below the water table of any area. It is not just located at the deeper depths that the gas companies are after. Anerobic decomposition of matter results in the creation of methane. A lot of water contamination occurs when people drill water wells for drinking water. </p>
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<p>Methane is odorless, colorless and explosive in the 5-15% concentration in normal oxygen concentrations (21%). The best remedy is to vent the gas off.</p> And, if you are in the Coal M…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-09-14:2274639:Comment:3449662012-09-14T04:38:56.784ZJack Strawhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JosephHawk
<p>And, if you are in the Coal Measures (any coal mining nearby?) it can be thermogenic methane.</p>
<p>A lot of funky stuff can show up in a water test in PA, OH, NY and WV.</p>
<p>Methane in the water can be one of the most benign constituents.</p>
<p>Arsenic and radon can be some of the least benign.</p>
<p>All of this "native"; no realationship to drilling, fracing, etc.</p>
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<p>The amount of methane that shows up in a well test can vary with the weather (more when a low pressure…</p>
<p>And, if you are in the Coal Measures (any coal mining nearby?) it can be thermogenic methane.</p>
<p>A lot of funky stuff can show up in a water test in PA, OH, NY and WV.</p>
<p>Methane in the water can be one of the most benign constituents.</p>
<p>Arsenic and radon can be some of the least benign.</p>
<p>All of this "native"; no realationship to drilling, fracing, etc.</p>
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<p>The amount of methane that shows up in a well test can vary with the weather (more when a low pressure front is passing through, less when a high pressure front is passing through).</p>
<p>The amount of methane that shows up in a well test can vary a little with with the lunar tidal cycles.</p>
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<p>JS</p>