WHERE IS THE ODNR??? - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-28T19:16:44Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/where-is-the-odnr?x=1&id=2274639%3ATopic%3A434865&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThat's what I was thinking. …tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-25:2274639:Comment:4402322013-04-25T12:36:33.455ZDanhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Dang
<p>That's what I was thinking. This task of reporting would be child's play compared to the energy companies calculating royalties on a unit with a bunch of small parcel owners, all with different leases. Some with market enhansment, some with deductions at different percentagages and some paying taxes and some not. </p>
<p>That's what I was thinking. This task of reporting would be child's play compared to the energy companies calculating royalties on a unit with a bunch of small parcel owners, all with different leases. Some with market enhansment, some with deductions at different percentagages and some paying taxes and some not. </p> I have no idea how fast or sl…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-25:2274639:Comment:4400752013-04-25T12:18:27.840Z0i7okn54zwbdohttps://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_0i7okn54zwbdo
<p>I have no idea how fast or slow data entry is. So assuming you're correct that would be 4 1/2 months for one person to do it. They'll have it done after ~one month. So are there 4-5 people doing it?</p>
<p>I have no idea how fast or slow data entry is. So assuming you're correct that would be 4 1/2 months for one person to do it. They'll have it done after ~one month. So are there 4-5 people doing it?</p> All they need to put out is a…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-25:2274639:Comment:4402242013-04-25T12:16:21.119ZPaul Martinellihttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/PaulMartinelli
<p>All they need to put out is a simple Excel spreadsheet, one row for each well.</p>
<p>1 day, 2 tops. </p>
<p>All they need to put out is a simple Excel spreadsheet, one row for each well.</p>
<p>1 day, 2 tops. </p> Marcus, I appreciate your per…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-25:2274639:Comment:4399812013-04-25T08:22:36.598ZT. Alexanderhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/TAlexander
<p>Marcus, I appreciate your perspective. After long experience with both the public and private sectors, I see absolutely no difference in bureaucratic behaviors or economic efficiency between the two. It's easy to bash on government, as they do all the jobs no one can make any real money on. And when there is a job farmed out to the private sector so "business principles" can be applied, the job is invariably done at a higher price, with worse outcomes, and a greater cost to customers. …</p>
<p>Marcus, I appreciate your perspective. After long experience with both the public and private sectors, I see absolutely no difference in bureaucratic behaviors or economic efficiency between the two. It's easy to bash on government, as they do all the jobs no one can make any real money on. And when there is a job farmed out to the private sector so "business principles" can be applied, the job is invariably done at a higher price, with worse outcomes, and a greater cost to customers. Let's just agree that there are good private sector companies and good public sector services, all dependent on the skill of the people and leadership involved. Assigning virtue or evil to one or the other is to not recognize the basic human condition, for better or worse. And we'll never get good government services by bashing the people in it over and over...how would you ever get superior public servants when they are always referred to as losers? The recent decades have been very damaging to the spirit of public service from an unrelenting attack on government, at the same time the perniciousness of private sector abuses from Enron to Wall Street derivatives are chalked up to "the price we pay for capitalism." I have a healthy respect for both public and private sectors; we desperately need them both working well to prosper, but I'm afraid the prevailing wisdom on where the virtue lies has swung WAY to one side versus the other. We're all people, after all. Am I disappointed that reports we expected to have from ODNR haven't materialized? Sure. But I'm under no illusions that anything is going to really change with the release. Besides, my irritation is much more directed at the private sector in this bit of theatrics: they're the ones who have lobbied so heavily to prevent changes to antiquated laws requiring only one reporting period a year. Had that been changed, we'd be well on our way to regular reports that would likely be released more quickly after a necessary period of adjustment (which we are obviously going through right now). And let's face it, the magnifying glass that Ohio's Utica position is under right now only amplifies the pressure the bureaucrats are under to get it right. Before now, no one really cared. That changes everything.</p> Should take one person about…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-24:2274639:Comment:4398702013-04-24T23:13:39.995ZDanhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Dang
<p>Should take one person about 90 days then?</p>
<p>Should take one person about 90 days then?</p> Finnbear,
Unfortunately th…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-24:2274639:Comment:4398422013-04-24T16:45:08.080ZBluflamehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JeffreyMiller
<p>Finnbear,</p>
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<p> Unfortunately the same logic will at least partially apply to 2013. The midstream infrastructure investment including processing facilities and pipelines is massive ($$B). No rational company would pony up these kind of $$$ without strong confidence they'll have lots of NGL's to process. That's the good news!</p>
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<p>BluFlame</p>
<p>Finnbear,</p>
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<p> Unfortunately the same logic will at least partially apply to 2013. The midstream infrastructure investment including processing facilities and pipelines is massive ($$B). No rational company would pony up these kind of $$$ without strong confidence they'll have lots of NGL's to process. That's the good news!</p>
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<p>BluFlame</p> 64,000+tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-24:2274639:Comment:4397892013-04-24T15:55:31.389Z0i7okn54zwbdohttps://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_0i7okn54zwbdo
<p>64,000+</p>
<p>64,000+</p> Don't know how many. It's da…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-24:2274639:Comment:4397872013-04-24T15:46:52.508ZDanhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Dang
<p>Don't know how many. It's data entry not rocket science. Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe incompetance or laziness across the land makes everything take 100 times longer today. Maybe typing the insurance codes at the hospital billing depts. is why healthcare costs are outragous?</p>
<p>Don't know how many. It's data entry not rocket science. Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe incompetance or laziness across the land makes everything take 100 times longer today. Maybe typing the insurance codes at the hospital billing depts. is why healthcare costs are outragous?</p> The Robin Hood bit is funny -…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-24:2274639:Comment:4396932013-04-24T15:39:33.849ZFinnbearhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Finnbear
<p>The Robin Hood bit is funny - now.</p>
<p>It won't be funny later when Robin Hood takes from us to give to the FSA.</p>
<p>The Robin Hood bit is funny - now.</p>
<p>It won't be funny later when Robin Hood takes from us to give to the FSA.</p> You can always count on Marcu…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2013-04-24:2274639:Comment:4398322013-04-24T15:39:03.873ZThe Hikerhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/TheHiker
<p>You can always count on Marcus to add some snarky comment to the discussion. I wasn't surprised. </p>
<p>You can always count on Marcus to add some snarky comment to the discussion. I wasn't surprised. </p>