Why is everyone so afraid? - GoMarcellusShale.com2024-03-29T02:13:50Zhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/why-is-everyone-so-afraid?commentId=2274639%3AComment%3A247834&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noGee, I couldn't find any rese…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2478342012-02-28T15:30:07.907ZFinnbearhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/Finnbear
<p>Gee, I couldn't find any research there. I found a lot of leftist propaganda but nothing that even remotely qualifies as research or involves scientific methods.</p>
<p>Gee, I couldn't find any research there. I found a lot of leftist propaganda but nothing that even remotely qualifies as research or involves scientific methods.</p> He is a jerk but he is a po…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2476962012-02-28T15:06:50.837ZBilly Park Whydehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/BillyParkWhyde
<p> He is a jerk but he is a politician that can read the writing or be replaced!</p>
<p> He is a jerk but he is a politician that can read the writing or be replaced!</p> Carol I was wonder if your…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2476942012-02-28T14:43:39.083ZBilly Park Whydehttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/BillyParkWhyde
<p> Carol I was wonder if your have a tactic here that the members are not getting on to. There are 11,926 members on this site with less than half being addicted (LOL) to this site. As a result you draw the attention of some very well written arguments that are not being seen by the general public. Surley if these members would divert their posted reply's here to the media that run articles upon drilling and fracking perhaps our arguments could be seen by millions. </p>
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<p> Carol I was wonder if your have a tactic here that the members are not getting on to. There are 11,926 members on this site with less than half being addicted (LOL) to this site. As a result you draw the attention of some very well written arguments that are not being seen by the general public. Surley if these members would divert their posted reply's here to the media that run articles upon drilling and fracking perhaps our arguments could be seen by millions. </p>
<p> Members here could easily copy and post to the Wall Street Journal, NY Times and in localities where supposed grass roots movements are clobbering the local media to get local bans through the old moratorium approach.</p>
<p> I personally will not respond and waste my time with you when my message might be able to be read by thousands and draw their support with drilling. Simply why waste my time with you?</p>
<p> I am off to the newspapers. </p>
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<p> This is where our post hit home at home!</p> "This is a typical leftist ta…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2476872012-02-28T14:00:31.716Zjihttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/jamesirwin
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<p>person personally. Well done Comrade !" </p>
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<div>Maybe some of you people should go back and review the comments you made about a young man by the name of Chance Metz in the ohio disposal well and earthquake blogs. Talk about name calling and personal attacks and not addressing…</div>
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<p>person personally. Well done Comrade !" </p>
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<div>Maybe some of you people should go back and review the comments you made about a young man by the name of Chance Metz in the ohio disposal well and earthquake blogs. Talk about name calling and personal attacks and not addressing issues. </div>
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</div> our gas will be going to chin…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2476782012-02-28T12:30:48.521Zjihttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/jamesirwin
<p>our gas will be going to china.</p>
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<p>our gas will be going to china.</p>
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<p>Clearly, Carol, you are not interested in truly addressing the issues <em>you feel</em> the O/G industry has, which flits from one to another like a butterfly in the breeze. Your goal appears to be, for whatever misguided reason, to shut it down and keep it down. </p>
<p>The thing is, if you lived your life without the comfort and extremely convenient amenities the O/G industry provides (assuming you don't -since you access a computer and the internet), your postings wouldn't have the aura…</p>
<p>Clearly, Carol, you are not interested in truly addressing the issues <em>you feel</em> the O/G industry has, which flits from one to another like a butterfly in the breeze. Your goal appears to be, for whatever misguided reason, to shut it down and keep it down. </p>
<p>The thing is, if you lived your life without the comfort and extremely convenient amenities the O/G industry provides (assuming you don't -since you access a computer and the internet), your postings wouldn't have the aura of hypocrisy about them. There's the old adage...careful what you wish for, you just might get it.</p>
<p>There's no chorus. That's the sound of your own deception ringing in your ears. </p> You know not whereof you spea…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2475612012-02-28T04:57:21.320ZFrank Walkerhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/FrankWalker
<p>You know not whereof you speak. I have tens of NG wells all around me, in every direction, with more going in every day. I have no water problems and neighbors have none whatsoever. There has never been a ground water contamination problem attributable to fracking, and unrelated to a surface spill or an improperly constructed well. There have, indeed, been contamination problems related to NG drilling, but not to fracking. Many of those problems will disappear as wells depressurize as a…</p>
<p>You know not whereof you speak. I have tens of NG wells all around me, in every direction, with more going in every day. I have no water problems and neighbors have none whatsoever. There has never been a ground water contamination problem attributable to fracking, and unrelated to a surface spill or an improperly constructed well. There have, indeed, been contamination problems related to NG drilling, but not to fracking. Many of those problems will disappear as wells depressurize as a natural consequence of NG production. Were corners cut in the past? I believe they were. Is this an ongoing problem? Not at all absent a willful flaunting of DEP regulations. The drillers are pretty darn good at what they do, and they know how to drill safely.</p>
<p>For thousands of us living amidst so much drilling, the mindless theoretical musings of the ivory tower set are amusing. Truly, they need to think less and get out more. </p>
<p>If it's the handling of frack water post construction that worries you, I agree with you standards need to be rigid. But here where I live frack water is mostly being recycled and then re-used to frack new wells. It is a cheaper approach. I concede, though, that this is a recent development.</p> Well said.tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2475572012-02-28T04:28:07.306ZJasonhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/JasonLytle
Well said.
Well said. Carol,
Regardless of the ince…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2475542012-02-28T04:11:07.354ZJim Shooshttps://gomarcellusshale.com/xn/detail/u_1zmcv26fki85q
<p>Carol,</p>
<p>Regardless of the inception of fracing, regardless of the techniques, regardless of the volumes of water involved in the process or the chemical cocktails involved, there is still no evidence that any of them have resulted in the contamination of drinking water supplies. You seem to have shifted your focus from hydro-fracing to cuttings, to truck traffic and surface disturbance... pardon me but I don't see the correlation of these ancillary issues to fracing and your…</p>
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<p>Regardless of the inception of fracing, regardless of the techniques, regardless of the volumes of water involved in the process or the chemical cocktails involved, there is still no evidence that any of them have resulted in the contamination of drinking water supplies. You seem to have shifted your focus from hydro-fracing to cuttings, to truck traffic and surface disturbance... pardon me but I don't see the correlation of these ancillary issues to fracing and your allegations of drinking water contamination. </p>
<p>Information withheld... show me when and where? Accidents occur every day. How about you calculate how much anti freeze, gasoline and oil gets spilled onto the streets and highways every day as a result of traffic accidents... all of which get hosed down into the sewers or into the creeks that are adjacent. Trust me, these incidents far outnumber, in terms of sheer volumes, the number of chemicals that drillers expose to your environment. Human existence takes a heavy toll on the environment. Tell me how many of your friends actually take their mercury laden fluorescent bulbs to be properly recycled versus pitching them into the regular trash to find their way into landfills. How many complex carbon compounds from tire wear get washed off the streets and highways by rainfall into the sewers and creeks? Why single out oil and gas producers when there are so many other far more harmful sources of harmful chemicals that are actually proven to be detrimental to human health?</p> Yes. There are a few faciliti…tag:gomarcellusshale.com,2012-02-28:2274639:Comment:2477452012-02-28T04:00:29.513ZDeborah Kittner Johnsonhttps://gomarcellusshale.com/profile/DeborahKittner
<p>Yes. There are a few facilities on the Gulf of Mexico that import, and then re-export what we do not use.</p>
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<p>Yes. There are a few facilities on the Gulf of Mexico that import, and then re-export what we do not use.</p>
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