Just curious...

     I am in Liberty township and a few months ago got an offer to buy my royalties for 1500 to 1800 per acre, but they would do a more in-depth look if I was serious which "mite change the numbers" slightly....even tho I am not drilled or receiving any royalties ..talked to a landsman rite b4 I contacted them and he advised caution as there will be "significant" activity in my area in the "near future"....how about it, anybody else get an offer or hear anything or see any activity here in Tioga Co. ?

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OT if there not drilling longer laterals for increased production than why spend the extra money to drill longer laterals don't understand that?Do you know how many frac stages they did on this long lateral.

OT, Do you know the bore spacing between the two bore's

So Old Timer,  Are you talking about the spacings between new pads or wells on side by side parallel units?  Are you saying that Gas would be likely to migrate from an inactive unit to a unit where gas is being harvested if wells are any closer? Thereby reducing the actual volume available from second unit when it is drilled.

Between each unit there would be a section that is more or less intact, (forming a  barrier so to speak) between units.

A little difficult to visualize, not knowing how these deposits are laid down to start with.

Granddad Ladd

Is everyone looking at the same seismic data? How accurate is the seismic?

Swepi made a decision to drill 5 long Marcellus laterals at Kennedy to the NW and designed the well pad to accommodation 4 PU's. They just as easily could have drilled 5 NW wells out 7,000 feet each. But they went with the 11,000 ft laterals.
By the way, the spacing of the 5 NW wells is about 875 feet.
Do you think that was done to try to maximize the Marcellus in that general area?  Those 5 NW wells are drilled right into a fault area and Swepi does not have any wells in Delmar to the north of those wells.

We are trying to understand what Swepi is seeing in the ground in the general area of Houck, Kennedy, Miller, Baker. They have spent years drilling there with what seems like disappointing results

OT, I have always held a belief that one reason Swepi designed the two North Kennedy units the way they did and drilled the long laterals there was because their long term plan was to drill Utica and or Trenton to the NW. Everything is in place at ground level. In my mind it all made sense on the above ground layout.

Looks like a calculated crap shoot, no matter who does the drilling or where!

This thought occurred to me.  Supposing that all of a sudden the plates should shift like they sometimes do, (major earthquake) and change the entire picture of gas and oil deposits?

 I recall driving south down route 15 toward Harrisburg, (May have been farther south).  years ago and I noticed an area where a huge underlying section of  rock was forced into a vertical position. This section had forced itself up through the later deposits, (something like a boil).  The overlaying layers had no choice except to bend and eventually reform themselves around this  section of rock.

It was some 50 odd years ago. I was hauling loads of hay to mushroom growers  in southeastern Pennsylvania. A Cut thru the mountain exposed this interesting rock formation.

Granddad Ladd 

Mr Ladd, When I was a kid, my dad had a 12x15 cabin on 50 foot of lake front at Keuka Lake. It was out on the Bluff. We lived at Wellsboro and use the place in the summer. One summer he hauled small trailer loads of shale to put on the beach area. The photo below inspired that memory. It was sharp on the edges but woule almost crumble when stressed. I remember sitting on the dock and looking down into the lake towards the bottom and there unending bubbles flowing from the bottom towards the top in a lot of places. That was many moons ago. I was about 8 at the time. If you grew hay and owned John Deere Equipment you may have known him.

Out Cropping of Marcellus

FYI, not sure how current this is or of what value to us it is other than to let us know that Swepi has drilled a whole lot of wells in PA....920...here it is by county

To Josie and Josie

About 70 years ago I spent many hours just west of Seneca Lake exploring a tiny creek named Wilson's Creek. There was an outcropping  very similar to your photo . Very soft and crumbly! Being only about 14 years old, I was a bit curious but had no idea other then it was called SHALE. I recall thinking that I could easily dig a cave into this crumbly layer of shale.

H did help neighboring farmers with their farm work, (Hauling hay, picking cherries, weeding beans, Swiping sweet corn for a corn roast in Wilson Creek gully),  Typical farm boy activities! 

We moved to Pensylvania during Christmas vacation, (Dad's birthplace and his early stomping grounds),  about 1949. I had just celebrated my 15th birthday.

Since the Marcellus gas exploration and development,  I have often thought of that  shale outcrop that I had poked around in as a kid was really the important Marcellus shale deposit.

Granddad Ladd 

OT, thank you for your replies and insights. You are a terrific member here and your contributions are outstanding.


To Josie and Bob

To give you a more accurate location of where the outcropping of shale was where I spent early childhood, I punched up the Swepi LP Marcellus shale map posted by you folks.

Find the area between  Seneca lake and Kueka lake. Look for the little towns of Stanley and Hall.  Stanley is on route 245. Hall is on 14A.  If you trace a line from the junction 245 and 14A directly toward  Seneca lake, You should come very close to where this outcropping is located. I would estimate it to be between two and three miles west of Seneca lake.

I cannot pinpoint any closer, but to say that it forms the gully that Wilson Creek flows through on its way to Seneca Lake.

Granddad Ladd


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