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Comment by Roy Greig on September 30, 2012 at 7:50pm

The Lake Ash. Geauga Landowners Assoc. will be having a meeting Thursday 10/4 at 6:00PM at Madison High School 3100 Burns Rd.  Bob Rea will be a speaker at this meeting, bringing us up to date, as he has recently  attended meetings in both Texas and West Virgina.  Bob also indicated that he would be offering sign ups for Buckeye Mineral for anyone who is interested .

Comment by Mark Dolezal on September 23, 2012 at 9:18pm

Consol Energy leases Monroe Co. acres for $5,000 per ac and 20% gross royalty ! Consol has holdings in NE Oh counties as well.

Informed, patient, landowners.

Comment by Mark Dolezal on September 11, 2012 at 7:04am

Roy,  Good Vibrations !  from Tidelands Services, Plano Texas

Comment by Roy Greig on September 10, 2012 at 7:52pm

Today the seismic cable company was laying cable all the way up Auburn to Painesville.  T.G.C was on the side of the trucks.  Company out of Texas.

Comment by HB on September 8, 2012 at 1:09am

Thumber trucks making their way through the heart of Geauga county this week.  Right up Auburn road, from south of Washington to north of Mayfield.  TGC (I think) written on the doors; didn't get close enough to read the logo.  Bodes well, me thinks.

Comment by Lowell Todd Armstrong on August 27, 2012 at 2:54pm

Tilia:

The only difference between straight hole fracing and horizontal well fracing, is that you are doing multiple fracs with only one penetration thru the aquifer, rather than multiple penetraions thru the aquifers.

Each individual hydraulic fracturing stimulation along the horizontal well path, and a single hydraulic fracturing stimulation in a straight hole are exactly the same.

For example, in a typical horizontal well you will have something like 17 individual perforations and fracs. You could achieve the same amount of production with 17 individual straight hole wells and 17 fracs. However, to drill these 17 individual straight hole wells, you have 17 times the expense to get down to the targeted formation.  For each of these 17 straight holes you will only produce 1/17th of the production that you will get with the horizontal well, and the wells will be uneconomical to drill (ie the investors drilling the wells will lose money).  Because of that economic reality, the Utica Shale was never drilled as a conventional straight hole target.

Now Tilia, this is the part where you want to pay attention:

As I said earlier (and this was the findings of the Ohio DNR), the problem with the Bainbridge well (and for that matter The BP Blowout int the Gulf of Mexico), was improper cementing of the production casing.

If you were to drill these 17 individual straight holes, you will give an operator 17 more chances to go brain dead and screw up their cement job, and possibly communicate saltwater or gas from down in the productive formation with a aquifer. This should NEVER happen if any care is taken with the cementing operation. But as we all know that mistakes happen, and by limiting the number of penetration thru the aquifers, you actually are reducing the number of chances for screw up.

So in conclusion, horizontal drilling actually limits the numbers of penetrations thru the aquifers and reduces the chances that our water supply is compromised.

Comment by Billy Park Whyde on August 27, 2012 at 12:56pm

The only difference is that a horozontal frac has perhaps 20 stages to it due to the bore extending into a formation  perhaps over a milk where a conventional frac on a vertical well may be only 150 feet of formation. There is thousands of feet between the Clinton formation and the Utica  for even a higher degree of safety as well. With three wells on my property and surrounding my property even more with fracked wells in the Clinton the Utica I fear not! Drill Baby Drill! 

Comment by Finnbear on August 27, 2012 at 11:45am

Where are "the wells which have caused aquifer contamination resulting in the sickness of humans and livestock"?

Comment by Tilia on August 27, 2012 at 11:28am

A quick response to Mr. Armstong:

I also am a farmer and a long time Geauga Co. resident, which is why the squandering of millions of gallons of water in the unconventional fracing process is of big concern to me.

It appears our misunderstanding is over the difference between the conventional well fracing, you refer to, which has been around for about 60 years and is typically done into Clinton Sandstone, and the unconventional fracing process which is about 5-7 years old and done into deep shale. Conventional fracing uses about 100,000-800,000 gallons of water per well and about 50- 400 gallons of fracing chemicals for each frac job.

Unconventional fracs, which I am referring to, use from 5 million to 7 million gallons of water for each frac and around 2,500 to 3,500 gallons of chemicals for each frac job. There are only 67 active unconventional wells like these in Ohio. These are the wells which have caused aquifer contamination resulting in the sickness of humans and livestock.

Comment by Lowell Todd Armstrong on August 26, 2012 at 1:05pm

My family has been Geauga County for almost 200 years. My Mom and Aunt own my grandfather's farm in Parkman.  I am a 30 year petroleum geologist who was first exposed to the oil and gas industry with all the Clinton sand drilling in Geauga back in the 70's.  I know what I am talking about . Just so you understand Tilia, ALMOST EVERY PRODUCING WELL THAT WAS DRILLED IN THE LAST 50 YEARS, IN GEAUGA COUNTY WAS FRACED. 

None of the Clinton sand wells will produce unless they are fraced.  Unless you are fracing at an very shallow depth (less than 1200') the simple physics of the rock mechanics will not let the frac grow into the shallow (ie 600') fresh water aquifers.

There are over 4000 wells that have been fraced in Geuaga County, there has been only one problem well (Bainbridge), and that problem had nothing to do with the frac.  It was a incompetent cement job (proper cementing of the casing is very easy to do if the operator has any technical competence). 

All the water you have been drinking for the last 40 years has been pumped out of aquifers that lie above gas reservoirs that have been fraced thousands of times.

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