Things are heating up in Trumbull County and this is the place to talk about it. The Utica is looking more promising and, for better or worse, Trumbull County could be right in the middle of it.
Has anyone gotten their lease check from Shale Investment Fund LLC yet. We signed in Jan. 30, 2012. Also when will the next meeting be. We were told we would be notified nothing yet. thank you Darlene
Sage59, from what they told us in the meeting in Hartford, and in Vernon, they have been doing the work to clear up old leases, but contact Dave at SIF on this.
We were told by a BP representative that BP is pulling out of Trumbull County on the 29th, I believe, to search elsewhere where the market looks more lucrative. We did, however, sign a lease yesterday with them for $3,900 per acre on 5 acres in Vernon Twp right off Rt. 5. An attorney handled it for us since we are from out out town and own the land from a distance.
Gina, What is the name of the rep? When you say BP is "pulling out of Trumbull County" do you mean they are not interested in new leases or that they do not plan on honoring the leases already signed? Either way, it seems strange considering this article in yesterday's paper http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/575546/BP-executive...
Gina, you can tell when an O&G landman or Rep. is lying, when you see their lips move.
BP is paying on their leases aquired through ALOV, and the deal was all or none, remember. This means by accepting and paying on any ALOV leases signed they can only avoid paying everyone else from that group, and doing so on time, would be if the lessor in question has an incurable title defect.
All others who sign up with them, or another outfit, would be subject to whatever you can negotiate, and payment would be according to your lease language.
I wish all the best of luck.
If you get more money or a better lease that is wonderfull. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.
BP, i believe is hear to stay. The prices for holdouts will go up, and only if, the landowners demand more money and possibly better leases.
What they heard about BP pulling out of Trumbull was a misunderstanding. They are not taking any NEW leases in Trumbull County unless it is within one of their proposed drill site tracts.
They are still active in other counties, it is just that they have close to 100,000 acres in Trumbull County and they want to spread out and gain a position in other counties.
Both bp and shale investment fund are having people sign leases that the oil company can back out of. Anytime before the signing bonus is paid, the oil company can back out. These are bad leases. There are hundreds of people getting turned down in sept by both companies.
We are committed to these leases forever. Thanks to the fine print, the oil company can back out any time they want. They make you wait 6 months for a signing bonus and if they dont want you, they turn you down at the last minute. Nothing fair about that. How many people are getting turned down on sept 17. waiting 6 months to be turned down sucks. and the
So now that the news is out how Halcon was cherry picking and weaseled their way out of multiple leases of those involved in a land owners association over in Mercer County (of course, sounds like a bad negotiation by the Land Association compared to alov's which was all or none)....what does that mean for us that signed at the West Farmington meeting? I believe most of us left believing that as long as our land titles proved cleared, it was a done deal......now, are we waiting 6 full months just to hear they turn you down for no reason at all?
Is everyone pulling out their contract with SIF looking for the words "due Diligence" My contract doesn't even mention the words , it just says if they don't pay me within 180 days, this contract is null and void......I guess that means they don't even have to run a title search on my property if they already know they don't want it....which contraindicates their verbal sell "if nothing else ,you get a free title search out of this" (just speculation on my part).
SIF, they'll tell you they are "exclusive" reps for Halcon...OK! I Fell for that one. They've been pushing hard around northern Trumbull. For everyone else around Trumbull that hasn't signed yet with SIF, do yourself a favor and wait and see just how Halcon is going to treat your local neighbors (or atleast get them to put a clause in if the land clears title they are obligated to proceed....yeah, right, like Halcon will sign that).
Speaking of neighbors, Hey Dave, You've been promoting SIF/Halcon so much around this area and on this site.....any words of wisdom....or truths anyways?
Does anyone know if Chesapeake is still in Trumbull county? I'm in braceville township and have a lease with Chesapeake and someone came around with a contract for seismic testing. I was wondering if chesapeake was behind this or did they sell my lease.
Does anyone have information for a landowners group in Trumbull County and Morgan County, Ohio. Your information is greatly appreciated. ryutopian@gmail.com
I am in the northeast corner of Vernon township, Trumbull county. Have not signed or been approached by anyone regarding my 10+ ac. Is there any activity here now or future plans? Any ideas for a contact? Thanks Hank
I think most folks in vernon signed with either BP or Carrizzo (flipped to Halcon). Landowner groups like ALOV helped the process. There are pros and cons to landowner groups - but my suggestion would be to research - ODNR and county recorders office are great places to start - along with with the great folks here on this site. It is possible to negotiate a lease on your own that best suits your interests with or without an oil &gas attorney. This is of course dependent on your savvy. With 10+ acres - I would expect to hear form a landman/woman soon as this play develops. Best of luck!
the time is coming folks, the best marketing teams will be active in Trumbull soon. We r getting calls from our clients. I am looking for an average market value, I have been told $3500 and 20% is the median. Is this even in the ballpark?
You've got my interest but who are you to be getting calls from what clients and you're asking everybody here if that $ & % are in the ballpark? I don't understand. Please enlightening me.
I drive past the well that is approx. 2.5 miles south of Johnston Township center on Rt 193 beside the tracks. Last couple days, I see that Dominion is putting some pipe in the ground heading North from the well. What does this mean?
Infrastructure is beginning to be put in place. These wells need pipelines - lots of them - at least for natural gas transport. We here in Trumbull county already have some in place from all the drilling that took place in the 70's - 80's. The Oil and Gas Companies - I am sure have a plan, and we will see how they connect the dots in the very near future. Any of you near the Pa. Line - check out the "well flaring" in Mercer county - Phillips 1H. Kinda like a giant Tiki torch. I guess this is done to burn off natural gas that needs to be vented for pressure testing of the well. I am only reiterating things that i have learned from this site and what I have seen
We just moved to Kinsman, OH...are there any current leases being offered? We leased our property in mercer county with hilcorp and we were with a landowner group through cx energy...any suggestions on a land owner group that is waiting on a lease offer?
Thanks again Warren for the reports. I did a drive by on the way home , both thru Corinth Court and Northern Bushnell-Cambell. Nothing visual that I could see yet.
The Brugler well did 1371 barrels of oil in 47 days, and 23521 in gas. The Avalon well did 209 barrels of oil in 27 days. Both of these are Halcon wells.
Halcon Kibler 1H and BP Jewett wells are now in production with the ODNR. The Jewett well showed 0 MCF in gas, 2 bbls of oil and 240 bbls of brine on the ODNR completion form.
The numbers are on the ODNR website. So far three of Trumbulls wells are officially permitted to be Plugged and Abandoned. Morrison, Jewitt and Dunbar.
(11) days reported in first quarter 2014 - Lennington: 367 Barrels Oil & 5103 Mcf Gas. ODNR website - Regulation -Oil & Gas/Shale Info/ on left side down to Well Production/Current Production/2014 Quaterlt Production
darlene k. stuart
Has anyone gotten their lease check from Shale Investment Fund LLC yet. We signed in Jan. 30, 2012. Also when will the next meeting be. We were told we would be notified nothing yet. thank you Darlene
Aug 9, 2012
William Otis
Sage59, from what they told us in the meeting in Hartford, and in Vernon, they have been doing the work to clear up old leases, but contact Dave at SIF on this.
Aug 9, 2012
Kevin Rishaw
Everyone was all over shale investment fund buying beef. How did this get missed?
http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/575471/BP-makes-don...
Aug 20, 2012
Gina Boltz
We were told by a BP representative that BP is pulling out of Trumbull County on the 29th, I believe, to search elsewhere where the market looks more lucrative. We did, however, sign a lease yesterday with them for $3,900 per acre on 5 acres in Vernon Twp right off Rt. 5. An attorney handled it for us since we are from out out town and own the land from a distance.
Aug 21, 2012
C Middleton
Gina, What is the name of the rep? When you say BP is "pulling out of Trumbull County" do you mean they are not interested in new leases or that they do not plan on honoring the leases already signed? Either way, it seems strange considering this article in yesterday's paper http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/575546/BP-executive...
Aug 21, 2012
C Middleton
The link below doesn't work but the title is "BP executive settles in" and discusses BPs presence in Trumbull.
Aug 21, 2012
Gina Boltz
Hello C Middleton,
From my understanding, BP is focusing on other counties with several kinds of oil possibilities. Trumbull Co, apparantly, has mostly natural gas.
What I gathered from our conversation sounded like many BPe officials had planned, and wanted to, remain in Trumbull, but it was someone else's call.
I'm uncomfortable sharing the rep's name.
Aug 21, 2012
tomvargo706
If that were true, they would not have signed a additional lease with you in Trumbull County yesterday. Point pleasant is a wet gas area.
They could have meant that they would be expanding into additional counties.
They probably just gave you that line so you would sign.
Aug 21, 2012
Gina Boltz
My attorney represented me and checked out the details. I'll let you all know if a problem or something of interest comes up.
Aug 21, 2012
Kevin Rishaw
how can anyone pull out of trumbull when no one is even here yet?
Aug 21, 2012
James Kerns
Hi Gina and all of my fellow shale owners,
Gina, you can tell when an O&G landman or Rep. is lying, when you see their lips move.
BP is paying on their leases aquired through ALOV, and the deal was all or none, remember. This means by accepting and paying on any ALOV leases signed they can only avoid paying everyone else from that group, and doing so on time, would be if the lessor in question has an incurable title defect.
All others who sign up with them, or another outfit, would be subject to whatever you can negotiate, and payment would be according to your lease language.
I wish all the best of luck.
If you get more money or a better lease that is wonderfull. We all have to make our own choices and live with them.
BP, i believe is hear to stay. The prices for holdouts will go up, and only if, the landowners demand more money and possibly better leases.
Aug 23, 2012
Kenny
What they heard about BP pulling out of Trumbull was a misunderstanding. They are not taking any NEW leases in Trumbull County unless it is within one of their proposed drill site tracts.
They are still active in other counties, it is just that they have close to 100,000 acres in Trumbull County and they want to spread out and gain a position in other counties.
Aug 25, 2012
D
Both bp and shale investment fund are having people sign leases that the oil company can back out of. Anytime before the signing bonus is paid, the oil company can back out. These are bad leases. There are hundreds of people getting turned down in sept by both companies.
We are committed to these leases forever. Thanks to the fine print, the oil company can back out any time they want. They make you wait 6 months for a signing bonus and if they dont want you, they turn you down at the last minute. Nothing fair about that. How many people are getting turned down on sept 17. waiting 6 months to be turned down sucks. and the
Sep 11, 2012
GRACIE MAE
So now that the news is out how Halcon was cherry picking and weaseled their way out of multiple leases of those involved in a land owners association over in Mercer County (of course, sounds like a bad negotiation by the Land Association compared to alov's which was all or none)....what does that mean for us that signed at the West Farmington meeting? I believe most of us left believing that as long as our land titles proved cleared, it was a done deal......now, are we waiting 6 full months just to hear they turn you down for no reason at all?
Is everyone pulling out their contract with SIF looking for the words "due Diligence" My contract doesn't even mention the words , it just says if they don't pay me within 180 days, this contract is null and void......I guess that means they don't even have to run a title search on my property if they already know they don't want it....which contraindicates their verbal sell "if nothing else ,you get a free title search out of this" (just speculation on my part).
SIF, they'll tell you they are "exclusive" reps for Halcon...OK! I Fell for that one. They've been pushing hard around northern Trumbull. For everyone else around Trumbull that hasn't signed yet with SIF, do yourself a favor and wait and see just how Halcon is going to treat your local neighbors (or atleast get them to put a clause in if the land clears title they are obligated to proceed....yeah, right, like Halcon will sign that).
Speaking of neighbors, Hey Dave, You've been promoting SIF/Halcon so much around this area and on this site.....any words of wisdom....or truths anyways?
Sep 18, 2012
Mark Dolezal
Eastern Geauga Landowners Group is adding acreage to our data base from Ash. Co, Portage Co. and Trumbull Co.
We are a non profit landowners group thats goal is to educate and advocate for the landowner . www.eg-land.org
Sep 19, 2012
Depolarized Farmer
Mark,
Is Bob Rea marketing EGL's acreage?
Sep 20, 2012
Mark Dolezal
No, Bob Rea is not marketing EGL's acreage.
Sep 21, 2012
Mark Dolezal
Consol Energy signs acreage in Monroe Co. for $5000 per acre and 20% gross royalty. Consol has many leases in Trumbull Co. as well.
Sep 23, 2012
Rowe
Sep 24, 2012
William Otis
Has anyone been picking up a free copy of Shale Play? It's a good publication, and may answer a lot of your questions.
This is definitely a "happening thing," and it isn't going to go away, and I do believe, Rowe, that Chesapeake is still in "play" — little pun!
Sep 26, 2012
john p halloran
Where do you get it?
Sep 26, 2012
rob
Does anyone have information for a landowners group in Trumbull County and Morgan County, Ohio. Your information is greatly appreciated. ryutopian@gmail.com
Oct 22, 2012
Mark Dolezal
Rob,
EGL/ Eastern Geauga Landowners , has members in Geauga,Trumbull, Ashtabula, Lake, and Portage Counties.
Oct 22, 2012
Billy Park Whyde
Might I ask how did Trumbull County vote for Obama when some of you will possibly be considered as rich targets for Obama to tax?
Nov 7, 2012
Oliver Perry
Billy, Obviously there are more registered democrat voters than there are oil & gas leased voters. Romney never had a chance in Ohio.
Nov 7, 2012
Warren Kalmar
I am in the northeast corner of Vernon township, Trumbull county. Have not signed or been approached by anyone regarding my 10+ ac. Is there any activity here now or future plans? Any ideas for a contact? Thanks Hank
Jan 15, 2013
MJ
Warren,
I think most folks in vernon signed with either BP or Carrizzo (flipped to Halcon). Landowner groups like ALOV helped the process. There are pros and cons to landowner groups - but my suggestion would be to research - ODNR and county recorders office are great places to start - along with with the great folks here on this site. It is possible to negotiate a lease on your own that best suits your interests with or without an oil &gas attorney. This is of course dependent on your savvy. With 10+ acres - I would expect to hear form a landman/woman soon as this play develops. Best of luck!
Jan 17, 2013
Tom Frey
Does anyone know if BP will send out 1099 forms for the bonus checks that were received in trumbull count leases?
Jan 31, 2013
Mark Allen
the time is coming folks, the best marketing teams will be active in Trumbull soon. We r getting calls from our clients. I am looking for an average market value, I have been told $3500 and 20% is the median. Is this even in the ballpark?
Apr 17, 2013
GRACIE MAE
You've got my interest but who are you to be getting calls from what clients and you're asking everybody here if that $ & % are in the ballpark? I don't understand. Please enlightening me.
Apr 17, 2013
Eric
I drive past the well that is approx. 2.5 miles south of Johnston Township center on Rt 193 beside the tracks. Last couple days, I see that Dominion is putting some pipe in the ground heading North from the well. What does this mean?
Apr 24, 2013
MJ
Infrastructure is beginning to be put in place. These wells need pipelines - lots of them - at least for natural gas transport. We here in Trumbull county already have some in place from all the drilling that took place in the 70's - 80's. The Oil and Gas Companies - I am sure have a plan, and we will see how they connect the dots in the very near future. Any of you near the Pa. Line - check out the "well flaring" in Mercer county - Phillips 1H. Kinda like a giant Tiki torch. I guess this is done to burn off natural gas that needs to be vented for pressure testing of the well. I am only reiterating things that i have learned from this site and what I have seen
Apr 28, 2013
Mark Dolezal
For any Landowners that are wishing to join a landowners group in Trumbull Co. area, we invite you to join us at www.eg-land.org
Jun 16, 2013
Kim Bickel
How do I find out about leasing my property?
Jul 1, 2013
matthew Fair
We just moved to Kinsman, OH...are there any current leases being offered? We leased our property in mercer county with hilcorp and we were with a landowner group through cx energy...any suggestions on a land owner group that is waiting on a lease offer?
Jul 18, 2013
Warren Kalmar
just heard I think drilling permit issued for property on Fisher Corinth Rd. Anyone else hear this? Was on radio wkbn 570 at 11:30a.
Aug 9, 2013
Warren Kalmar
heard on 570 today, well going in on bushnell campbell rd south of rt 5, outskirts of Kinsman.
Aug 12, 2013
tomvargo706
Thanks Warren for reporting what you hear on the radio.
Aug 12, 2013
MJ
Thanks again Warren for the reports. I did a drive by on the way home , both thru Corinth Court and Northern Bushnell-Cambell. Nothing visual that I could see yet.
Aug 12, 2013
Dan Eslton
Just new to this got a question does anyone know what is going on on state route 422 in warren by the bye pass is that a new well??
Aug 15, 2013
Robert Bond
Just wanted to say MERRY CHRISTMAS to all and thanks for another great year !!!
Dec 19, 2013
TM
BP Zerovich well in Mecca is now in production with the ODNR.
Jan 13, 2014
TM
Jan 27, 2014
deer spotter
Not great numbers. Hope the wells are chocked down.
Jan 27, 2014
john p halloran
Feb 13, 2014
TM
Halcon Kibler 1H and BP Jewett wells are now in production with the ODNR. The Jewett well showed 0 MCF in gas, 2 bbls of oil and 240 bbls of brine on the ODNR completion form.
Feb 19, 2014
Bob Rock
I have to ask this question. What are the production numbers on trumbull county wells recently?
And how many are being permitted to plug?
Aug 4, 2014
MJ
Bob,
The numbers are on the ODNR website. So far three of Trumbulls wells are officially permitted to be Plugged and Abandoned. Morrison, Jewitt and Dunbar.
Aug 4, 2014
john p halloran
Aug 4, 2014
MJ
John,
(11) days reported in first quarter 2014 - Lennington: 367 Barrels Oil & 5103 Mcf Gas. ODNR website - Regulation -Oil & Gas/Shale Info/ on left side down to Well Production/Current Production/2014 Quaterlt Production
Aug 5, 2014