Things are heating up in Trumbull County and this is the place to talk about it. The Utica is looking more promising and, for better or worse, Trumbull County could be right in the middle of it.
By the decreasing amount of traffic and purposefull interaction by the friendly's on this site, and by my own observations, i feel this site is quickly becoming irrelavent in our quest for a good lease and a fair price for access to our land and its riches. Any comments would be appreciated.
Just a note for everyone out there. had a neighbor from just over the geauga county line come and ask me a question about a seemingly new company in the area called lario out of colorado. They are offering 300.00 and 12% but with a new twist of giving free houshold gas. They are claiming to be looking for utica has and seem to be targeting non leased ground and not going east of the county line "at this time".
Thats what i told them. The company looks legit on-line but they seem to be working the wishguard line looking for those that are not educated on this stuff. Just thought everyone should know there is another low-baller in town.
I signed a lease with Wellington Resources, LLC in July, 2011. My signing bonus was due last week, but has not been paid. I was told that the cost of gas was so low that they were unable to sell my lease, and that I would have to wait, otherwise, they would lose money if they paid me now. The gentleman I spoke with was very open that it was within my rights to try and shop my lease on my own, but recommended against doing so. Has anyone else in Trumbull County actually been paid a signing bonus? Not sure what to do at this point.
I live in near Toledo Ohio and own 5 acres of property along Rt 5 about 3 miles south of Kinsman. Might any of my Trumbull County friends share with me the latest area news? I plan to drive to Warren next month to speak with an attorney about all this and would like an update, plus any important questions, insights or suggestions you may have.
I'll post on the Trumbull Co boards what the attorney shares with me. Being informed and united is the best way to help each other. And with that in mind, I thank you for all your posts!
Gina, The best advice i know of is try to join a landowner group. I've been reading alot about this stuff and the best way to get the best lease is in a group. I know i have had alot of landman knocking at my door and they are like salesman and will tell you anything to get you to sign. Just be aware.
Has anyone heard of a company called Shale Investment Fund leasing property in trumbull county? I received a letter from them offering $3000 an acre and 17% royalty. I don't know how long the lease is for it don't say. I will just wait for ALOV I trust them.
I also got that letter, and I know of several others who recieved it too. We are all members of ALOV, and we plan on being patient. It's a complicated business and I trust ALOV also. I hope we get some good news soon.
My personal ( yet uninformed opinion ) Is that the gas companies are waiting to see more from this area ( aka test well in Parkman ) and that will help determine the interest in Trumbull. seeing as how the Parkman area has been poked at we will see results from ALOV soon. Just my $0.02
Side note as my OCD is kicking in.
Can someone please teach ALOV how to spell Trumbull on their sight.....
We received a letter from Shale Investment Fund as well. Got online and could not find much on them. That is the 3rd and highest offer in 4 months, but have no plans on signing with them.
Why are people listening to, and believing all of the lies and cover-ups of the oil and gas companies? Have any of you even thought about the reality instead of the money? I don't think so. Look try to watch this GASLAND.
Seems we have another jealous nut on this sight,go away,this movie is nothing but bunk and its been disproven many times over. All it is,is activist B.S..
Tom, no, ours did not either, just a number to call if we are interested.
In November 2011, PAC energy offered us 2000/arce. Also in Novermber Campbell Development offered 2000 then 2400 then 2500/acre. Have 69 to lease (brookfield twp).
I have a farm in mercer county we signed with hilcorp in december for 3250 and happy with that.
Very surprised I have not got an offer on a lease in Trumbull as good as my Transfer Pa property. Have 170acres in Crawford County pa and have no offers at all yet. - Rick
Tri-State Energy recently held meetings for residents in Fowler, Brookfield, etc. They were offering $3000 an acre. They promised to pay within 90 day of signing their lease. They claim, through one of their representatives, that Chesapeak has pulled out and they're taking over. I learned that Tri-State Energy had been bought and sold a number of times. They currently own all the Circle K's and 76 Gas Stations. They also own a large number of oil refineries and oil service supplies. However, a few years back, they were in Colorado frack drilling with Exon and went belly up when Exon pulled out. TSE took out a $1.1 million loan from the federal government to help them recover and defaulted on it. Chesapeak is having financial difficulties and has ceased making offers at this time. So, if people are not getting lease offers at this time, it is not because our area has limited potential. These companies are having money woes.
Hearing some chatter, but its changed from "two more weeks" and then to "We will be sending letters out this week and by the second week in Feb. we will have the meeting", the new one is "Letters will be going out sometime in March, but having hard time finding a meeting location" (BTW Katie Rea told me in Dec. 2011 that the meeting location would most prob. be again at Packard Music Hall and that the letters were ready to go out.)
I had felt my trust was well placed, have defended the leadership of our group when i could, been patient and tried to persuade others to be as well, but i must say being strung along this way is getting very old.
Tom Frey
Any more updates on the Alov deal in Trumbull county?
Dec 13, 2011
James Kerns
By the decreasing amount of traffic and purposefull interaction by the friendly's on this site, and by my own observations, i feel this site is quickly becoming irrelavent in our quest for a good lease and a fair price for access to our land and its riches. Any comments would be appreciated.
Dec 16, 2011
James Kerns
I am curious if anyone who has gotten a lease done and or gotten their Bonus money, is still checking in here?
Dec 21, 2011
joe
Just a note for everyone out there. had a neighbor from just over the geauga county line come and ask me a question about a seemingly new company in the area called lario out of colorado. They are offering 300.00 and 12% but with a new twist of giving free houshold gas. They are claiming to be looking for utica has and seem to be targeting non leased ground and not going east of the county line "at this time".
Jan 10, 2012
joe
Thats what i told them. The company looks legit on-line but they seem to be working the wishguard line looking for those that are not educated on this stuff. Just thought everyone should know there is another low-baller in town.
Jan 10, 2012
Tom Frey
Anyone hear anything about the ALOV group in trumbull county
Jan 17, 2012
Robert J Ellis
I signed a lease with Wellington Resources, LLC in July, 2011. My signing bonus was due last week, but has not been paid. I was told that the cost of gas was so low that they were unable to sell my lease, and that I would have to wait, otherwise, they would lose money if they paid me now. The gentleman I spoke with was very open that it was within my rights to try and shop my lease on my own, but recommended against doing so. Has anyone else in Trumbull County actually been paid a signing bonus? Not sure what to do at this point.
Jan 28, 2012
Robert J Ellis
Tom,
Thanks for the feedback. Do you have contact info for Buckeye?
Jan 28, 2012
Robert J Ellis
Never mind, got it. Thanks again.
Jan 28, 2012
Gina Boltz
Hello,
I live in near Toledo Ohio and own 5 acres of property along Rt 5 about 3 miles south of Kinsman. Might any of my Trumbull County friends share with me the latest area news? I plan to drive to Warren next month to speak with an attorney about all this and would like an update, plus any important questions, insights or suggestions you may have.
I'll post on the Trumbull Co boards what the attorney shares with me. Being informed and united is the best way to help each other. And with that in mind, I thank you for all your posts!
Feb 2, 2012
Tom Frey
Gina, The best advice i know of is try to join a landowner group. I've been reading alot about this stuff and the best way to get the best lease is in a group. I know i have had alot of landman knocking at my door and they are like salesman and will tell you anything to get you to sign. Just be aware.
Feb 3, 2012
Tom Frey
Has anyone heard of a company called Shale Investment Fund leasing property in trumbull county? I received a letter from them offering $3000 an acre and 17% royalty. I don't know how long the lease is for it don't say. I will just wait for ALOV I trust them.
Feb 17, 2012
D M
I also got that letter, and I know of several others who recieved it too. We are all members of ALOV, and we plan on being patient. It's a complicated business and I trust ALOV also. I hope we get some good news soon.
Feb 17, 2012
Kevin Rishaw
My personal ( yet uninformed opinion ) Is that the gas companies are waiting to see more from this area ( aka test well in Parkman ) and that will help determine the interest in Trumbull. seeing as how the Parkman area has been poked at we will see results from ALOV soon. Just my $0.02
Side note as my OCD is kicking in.
Can someone please teach ALOV how to spell Trumbull on their sight.....
Feb 22, 2012
Richard Liston
We received a letter from Shale Investment Fund as well. Got online and could not find much on them. That is the 3rd and highest offer in 4 months, but have no plans on signing with them.
Feb 23, 2012
Tom Frey
Richard,
I also received a letter from them. Did your letter tell you how long the lease was for? Mine did not. Thanks, Tom
Feb 24, 2012
Matthew Wengerd
Why are people listening to, and believing all of the lies and cover-ups of the oil and gas companies? Have any of you even thought about the reality instead of the money? I don't think so. Look try to watch this GASLAND.
occupy warren presents:
The Series of occupy concerns:
the gas man is coming
2-4pm
Warren-Trumbull County Public Library
Second Floor Meeting Room
444 Mahoning Avenue Northwest
Warren, OH 44483
(330) 399-8807
On March 3, 2012 Occupy Warren is holding an informational meeting on the booming oil & gas industry.
We will begin with an opening speech, and then move on to multiple informational videos.
We will then open up the floor to any questions from the public
All are invited to come, enjoy, and learn.
Knowledge is the greatest tool to man.
#solidarity
Feb 26, 2012
john p halloran
Feb 26, 2012
Richard Liston
Tom, no, ours did not either, just a number to call if we are interested.
In November 2011, PAC energy offered us 2000/arce. Also in Novermber Campbell Development offered 2000 then 2400 then 2500/acre. Have 69 to lease (brookfield twp).
I have a farm in mercer county we signed with hilcorp in december for 3250 and happy with that.
Very surprised I have not got an offer on a lease in Trumbull as good as my Transfer Pa property. Have 170acres in Crawford County pa and have no offers at all yet. - Rick
Feb 27, 2012
Tom Frey
Richard, May I ask how long the lease was for with the other offers?
Feb 27, 2012
Richard Liston
Tom, PAC was ten years with a lease no one in their right mind would sign.
The Campbell Dev. lease was 5 and 5, once again, the lease was not acceptable at all.
Mercer county lease 5 and 5 - Rick
Feb 27, 2012
Tom Frey
Rick, Thanks for the info.
Feb 27, 2012
Tanya Gabriele
Tri-State Energy recently held meetings for residents in Fowler, Brookfield, etc. They were offering $3000 an acre. They promised to pay within 90 day of signing their lease. They claim, through one of their representatives, that Chesapeak has pulled out and they're taking over. I learned that Tri-State Energy had been bought and sold a number of times. They currently own all the Circle K's and 76 Gas Stations. They also own a large number of oil refineries and oil service supplies. However, a few years back, they were in Colorado frack drilling with Exon and went belly up when Exon pulled out. TSE took out a $1.1 million loan from the federal government to help them recover and defaulted on it. Chesapeak is having financial difficulties and has ceased making offers at this time. So, if people are not getting lease offers at this time, it is not because our area has limited potential. These companies are having money woes.
Feb 27, 2012
Tom Frey
Any updates for the Trumbull county ALOV group?
Mar 2, 2012
James Kerns
Hearing some chatter, but its changed from "two more weeks" and then to "We will be sending letters out this week and by the second week in Feb. we will have the meeting", the new one is "Letters will be going out sometime in March, but having hard time finding a meeting location" (BTW Katie Rea told me in Dec. 2011 that the meeting location would most prob. be again at Packard Music Hall and that the letters were ready to go out.)
I had felt my trust was well placed, have defended the leadership of our group when i could, been patient and tried to persuade others to be as well, but i must say being strung along this way is getting very old.
Mar 2, 2012
john p halloran
Mar 2, 2012
Tom Frey
Kevin, But it still doesn't hurt to know what is going on around you.
Mar 9, 2012
Tom Frey
Any Info. on trumbull county ALOV group?
Mar 12, 2012
Kevin Rishaw
Got the letter today. Monday March 26 will be the ALOV meeting at Covelli Centre. 6:30pm
Mar 14, 2012
Craig Stull
Tom, Check your mail!!!!!
Mar 14, 2012
Dominic R. Spelich
Mar 14, 2012
Kevin Rishaw
I am very disappointed with the information contained in the ALOV packet.
Mar 14, 2012
tomvargo706
What was the info in the Alov packet?
Mar 15, 2012
Michael Vary
Mar 16, 2012
Ryan
Tom, not much info was in the packet, pretty much told us the date, time, and place of the meeting
Mar 16, 2012
tomvargo706
Thanks
Mar 16, 2012
myles fetterhoff
what is bad about the new alov lease whats missing? Are they talking same kind of bonus other counties got?
Mar 18, 2012
Kevin Rishaw
Mar 18, 2012
Tom Frey
Wow not much talking going on here.
Mar 22, 2012
myles fetterhoff
hey they got 3000 and 15% holmes county
Mar 22, 2012
myles fetterhoff
we looking for the holes in the lease
Mar 22, 2012
Tom Frey
Who got that for Holmes county
Mar 22, 2012
myles fetterhoff
devron energy
Mar 22, 2012
myles fetterhoff
there was know core sampling done or a well and thats what they got.
Mar 22, 2012
Tom Frey
ok thanks
Mar 22, 2012
myles fetterhoff
are you going to the meeting?
Mar 22, 2012
myles fetterhoff
anyone going to trhe meeting?
Mar 22, 2012
Tom Frey
The meeting the 26th i am going to. I'm part of the trumbull county group
Mar 22, 2012
myles fetterhoff
we you help us learn who the driller and was it buckeye who was the land person who put this together.
Mar 22, 2012
myles fetterhoff
And I'd really also like to know who they are signing with! What driller and what leasing agent (is it Bob Rea and Buckeye Mineral development?)
Mar 22, 2012