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Stacked pay (play?)

Started this discussion. Last reply by Jeffrey Beunier Jul 12. 22 Replies

"“On the completion side, we are in the process of completing our “stacked pay” Stalder pad, which incorporates two Marcellus Condensate wells and three Utica Dry Gas wells. We expect that this pad…Continue

What President Trump's tax reform might mean to royalty owners

Started this discussion. Last reply by David Allen Lilly Dec 27, 2017. 43 Replies

Good morning,It is December 18th and the news is rife with reports that the republicans may finally, just for once, have their act together enough to do something worthwhile for the American…Continue

First royalty check has me baffled

Started this discussion. Last reply by Renee E. Dorsey Oct 8, 2016. 29 Replies

So most of you know me from the site and some know me in person. I have been an active participant in these forums on this site for more than 2 years, probably more.I have read everything I can read…Continue

Some good news, finally

Started this discussion. Last reply by Chris Sep 29, 2016. 1 Reply


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David Allen Lilly replied to nc man's discussion 'anything new?'
"What was the offer amount ? A couple of weeks ago I received two letters offering $14,000 an acre for each of our two parcels in Millwood township. I didn't even consider selling but was surprised at the offer amount although I believe there is…"
David Allen Lilly replied to Philip Brutz's discussion 'Activity in Millwood Township (Guernsey)' in the group Guernsey County, OH
"Can anyone tell me when the Mercury units went into production ?"
David Allen Lilly replied to Keith Mauck (Site Publisher)'s discussion 'Looking for new gas & oil in Ohio'
"I spoke with a shirt last week who told me it would be 10 or 15 years depending on market prices and technological advances before the central/western part of Guernsey county would be produced. Remember, this is the area that it all started in for…"
David Allen Lilly replied to Keith Mauck (Site Publisher)'s discussion 'Looking for new gas & oil in Ohio'
"We bought an additional 36 acres in Liberty Township Guernsey County just last year and obtained the mineral rights as well although the property is tied up in a terrible Artex lease from 10 years ago. When I say terrible Artex lease I mean terrible…"
Jul 13
Jeffrey Beunier replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"David et al....here's an article/post from BTU Analytics that you may find helpful https://btuanalytics.com/update-on-dry-utica/ Stacked Pay? An Update on Dry Utica View all posts by Marissa Anderson Being able to drill multiple horizons in a…"
Jul 12
Old Timer replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"you'll learn more about what the suits don't want you to know if you hit the watering holes in drilling country and talk to GRIME after they clean up than anywhere else.each one has a specialty and they love to talk about it after a couple…"
Jul 11
David Allen Lilly replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"It does seem that things can and do change rather rapidly, I am just one guy with some land wondering if we would ever be in a stacked play area ? I am also wondering about the areas in Guernsey county around Cambridge, which is a little west of…"
Jul 11
Ralph cramdon replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"Years ago the best gas wells in lower NY State came from the Trenton / Black River , just North of Corning ..........."
Jul 10
LewPa replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"DAL, In Butler Co, PA, Rex Energy drilled the Burkett formation and the Marcellus formation years ago from the same pad. Burkett is above the Marcellus. I 'm in different units that correspond to the different layers of these…"
Jul 10
Jeffrey Beunier replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"Stacked plays in Appalachia? The best would be along the river and east into WV and PA.  If you look through some of Range Energy's, CNX's, EQT's, and/or Antero Resources' presentations, you will see where they made some…"
Jul 10
David Allen Lilly replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"It seems to come down to the thickness of the Marcellus where it overlaps the Utica and according to one person who responded that only occurs along the Ohio River. And it may be that way always but things in this industry change very rapidly, so…"
Jul 10
jason irvine replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"Does anyone have a opinion about the best areas for stacked play."
Jul 9
David Allen Lilly replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"Yes, it did, the Mercury unit which is fracked but may or may not be in production, I cannot get verification either way. We have 12.5 acres in the McClain Unit with Chesapeake that has been producing for a little over two years. The balance is in…"
Jul 7
Jeffrey Beunier replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"Didn’t the rest of your acreage just get pooled into the new eclipse unit?  Or is that a different parcel...the permits and/or unit agreements include parcel numbers"
Jul 6
Blueflame_02 replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"Millwood is right in the heart of Eclipse Resource's target area in Guernsey County - as well as Ascent. $14K per mineral acre to sell doesn't seem surprising. Eclipse has had great success in the condensate rich Utica."
Jul 6
David Allen Lilly replied to David Allen Lilly's discussion 'Stacked pay (play?)'
"I received last week an offer to buy our minerals in Millwood township Guernsey County (30 acres)  for $420,000. I wonder what is going on, if there is something coming that would make someone pay that amount ? The offers had our parcel numbers…"
Jul 6

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Millwood township in Guernsey county Ohio landowner, 30 acres.
Joined the NY group and signed with Carrizo, things didn't go well. Turner Oil and Gas showed our property to Antero Resources and said they wanted it, so we signed with them and they paid in time, just as they said they would. I hope that I can help someone avoid pitfalls and get everything they have coming to them.
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At 8:28pm on December 7, 2017, Dott said…

Thanks for the information David. I am with Chevron and my O & G rights are in Mill township, Tuscarawas County Ohio. I am in the Wet Gas area and the company is mostly after the condensates I am told although there will be some Oil and Gas coming out with it I imagine. Are you being paid for condensates?

And the second question I have is does your "Market Enhancement" Clause read exactly like mine?

Here is my Clause:

Such royalty to be calculated without deduction for the production, gathering, storing, separating, treatment, dehydrating, compressing, processing, transportation and marketing of Oil and gas and other products, provided however any such costs which result in enhancing the value of marketable oil and gas or other products to receive a better price that is less than or more than the price received by Lessee.

I ask this because you said the O& G company is not deducting anything. Chevron wants to ratify the lease to increase the unit size from 640 acres to 1450 acres (Longer laterals to be drilled in 2018). So I said that I would agree to the increase if they drop the Market Enhancement Clause.  They said they would but only if I agreed to having all "Transportation" charges deducted.  So I don't know if I should just keep the Market Enhancement clause and take my chances or go with the Transportation Charges. 

Some Lawyers have told me that Market Enhancement Clauses allow them a backdoor to charge any type of deduction including transportation and thought perhaps just changing it to " Transportation" only would be better.  But you said with your Market Enhancement clause they don't deduct anything but I think your wording is a bit different than mine.  I would appreciate any insight.

At 4:34pm on December 7, 2017, Dott said…


Maybe I found a way.  Is this email getting to you after all?

At 5:25pm on November 14, 2017, David Cain said…


I have accepted your friend invite and would appreciate any info you are willing to share.  I have property off of Barker Rd in the southeast corner of Millwood township.


Dave Cain

At 7:50am on April 28, 2016, jean pierre said…

Good day,
How is everything with you, I picked interest on you after going through your short profile and deemed it necessary to write you immediately. I have something very important to disclose to you, but I found it difficult to express myself here, since it's a public site. Could you please get back to me on my private email(jean.pierre45454@gmail.com) for the full details?
Have a nice day and God bless you,

At 9:32pm on March 24, 2016, Becky said…

David, I have property in Noble County.  330-241-3065 is my cell.  Local Meeting with Hart Petrol Global to discuss the audit info you mentioned in your last post.  This is on April 2nd. Three meeting times have been set up.  This is free.  Call me if you would like to attend.  I am a NARO member. 



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