One day after saying they could not "speculate" on when a key health review on hydrofracking in New York would commence, the New York State Department of Health has now announced three university experts have been chosen and will review the data.
Ney York is closer to shutting the door on fracing
It is with great disappointment that I bring you news from " closed for business" New York. Check the latest development in the irrational moratorium:
It is now time for NY landowners to align for one massive lawsuit for the taking of our mineral rights. Either these jokers will stop fracing altogether or they will dissuade O&G companies from drilling with onerous rules. I am simply disgusted!!
Dave
New York State Commissioner of Health Dr. Nirav Shah was tasked with hiring outside experts to review health impact data on fracking, as the Cuomo Administration continues to study whether fracking will be permitted in New York.
With two weeks to go before a key deadline, the health department says it has contracted with three experts to review the report.
They are John Adgate, with the Colorado School of Public Health; Lynn Goldman, who’s dean of George Washington University’s School of Public Health and Health Services; and Richard Jackson, chair of the Department of Environmental Health Sciences at the University of California, Los Angeles.
If the Department of Health doesn't complete the health review by Nov. 29, the state’s environmental agency has to start a rule making process all over again, possibly delaying a decision on fracking for months.
A health department spokesman says Dr. Shah is "nearing completion" of his review.
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Permalink Reply by 015334grltd9m on
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David,
Who is John Gault?
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Permalink Reply by Jim Litwinowicz on
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*shrugs*
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Permalink Reply by David Perotto on
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Ron,
I love the riddle & I have the answer:
John Galt is the copper-haired, white-boy protagonist in Ayn Rand’s Atlas Shrugged. Galt leads a revolutionary movement in which all the top leaders of the banks and corporations forsake their corporate jets and perks to work in diners or as subway repair guys. No they weren’t fired by Galt. Rather, Galt urged them to go on strike and withdraw their expertise from an increasingly socialist world. Deprived of the genius of their genius, the world economy collapses.
You are wise to bring this point up, our government is forsaking the producers and listening to those who will obliterate our economy. All for some potentially harmful side effects of NG extraction. Oh, and let's not forget, Americas first natural gas well was in Fredonia, NY, in 1821. Amazing we aren't extinct by now.
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and why is this happening now? because obama won. it was political football before. its in the endzone now.
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Permalink Reply by David Perotto on
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Gary,
There were many democrats, that were running for the state legislature, who were voicing an anti-fracing message during the campaign. Thankfully they all lost. Mr. Cuomo and company certainly waited to announce this after the election. He is now damaging his Presidential aspirations. If he doesn't realize this, he is unfit to sit as President.
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they all lost? wow. thats great news in the middle of a disaster.
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Permalink Reply by David Perotto on
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Gary,
This is from the Joint Landowner Coalition of NY:
Dear Friends and Natural Gas Supporters,The elections are finally over – and the results are in – anti-gas activists lost. We accomplished a great deal from our get-out-the-vote efforts and for the commitment and hard work on behalf of so many of you who continue to work tirelessly to bring natural gas development to our region.Across upstate NY, anti-gas activists lost and pro-natural gas development folks won in local elections. Even those who used anti fracing as their signature issue – in particular Dan Lamb (who ran against Congressman Richard Hanna) and Tarik Abdelazim (who ran against Broome County Executive Debbie Preston) lost handily.We hope this clear mandate from the people speaks loudly and clearly to Governor Cuomo – we want what’s best for upstate NY – and that is safe, responsible natural gas development – which will help clean the air, provide jobs and restore our communities.Now that the people have spoken – we need to continue our efforts to move natural gas ahead. Now more than ever, we need your financial support . Please send a check in whatever amount you can to:JLCNYPO Box 2839Binghamton, NY 13902
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Permalink Reply by Jim Litwinowicz on
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How did the state-wide races turn out? Did the anti-gas people win because of NYC liberals? Is the state legislature controlled by NYC and its surrounding liberal base?
I would expect local races to be won by pro-gas people but who controls the legislature controls the playing field.
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Permalink Reply by David Perotto on
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Jim,
Our state senate is still in republican control (by a slim margin) & most are pro-gas. The assembly is a different story. In most areas where drilling will occur, rural counties, those residents are conservative republicans. God bless them. I chuckled all summer and fall as I drove past the America vs Obama signs all over the southern tier. There are many anti-drilling assembly democrats currently holding office, such as one Barbara Lifton from Planet Ithaca. NYC does dominate our state politics as they outnumber the rest of the state.
The anti-drilling candidates all lost as they were from these rural counties.They probably didn't have a legitimate chance anyway.
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Permalink Reply by David Perotto on
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Just realized I mistyped New York in the header. Kind of funny, sounds like that Neyy Yawk accent. We don't have that accent upstate.
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Permalink Reply by Jim Litwinowicz on
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Shoulda typed it as Nyet York...
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Good one, Jim! All the frustration being voiced on this site and others re: NY "anti-fracking" can just as well be recognized as anti-everything that is needed in the state. Anti- industry (consider how many have moved away), anti-cheap energy, anti -striving to become less reliant on countries that don't like us anyway. What are these high-volume folks advocating? Pro- unemployment, pro-taxes to support aged-out infrastructure in cities/villages/towns and the public health programs. Who's left to pay? The pro-fracking movement is far from ignorant on health issues hence "smart" leasing based on environmental issues that affect the public and our land.
Many workshops, seminars, meetings, and webinars have been held and well-attended because surface and sub-surface landowners DO CARE. They are tired of NY being a "hand-out" state, when the Southern Tier on its own could help it become a "hand-up" state!
How many realize that fracking can be accomplished a number of ways?
1.Water plus 3% chemicals can be used. How many chemicals are washed off our roadways, our veggies, rinsed off our clothes in the wash ? The list is endless & where is the worry? We've stopped reading the fine print on labels ... lost our focus ... except when it comes to NATURAL gas, and that lovely oil which often accompanies it. What chemical company made that darn oil?
2. Fracking can be done w/propane in the gel form. Insert. The propane does the job and returns to its gaseous state to be used again. How many uses do we have for propane?
3. Some major companies have perfected fracking w/the leftovers from the food industry. Our health and environment will surely suffer from food left-overs ... at least my grand-kids think so!
4. Fracking has nearly reached an elegant state thanks to research done @ MIT's Plasma Science and Fusion Center. The reference is to using laser beams to vaporize the rock. Collaborators testing the procedure are led by Impact Technologies out of Tulsa. There are skeptics ...due to the lack of drilling mud which has always considered to be needed for plugging pores and providing back pressure, etc..
THESE ARE ALL FRACKING EXAMPLES of Technology on the Move. If the anti-fracking movement wants to be sure that ALL has been studied and evaluated, they will never agree or allow New York to be the EMPIRE STATE again. That title is nothing but laughable and extremely sad at the same time. Technology doesn't stop, but prosperity surely does. It has in NY.
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