Tioga County, PA
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Need to have a little information concerning pipelines
A few minutes ago a young man stopped by to ask about running pipeline across my property. It was just a preliminary questioning about how or where the drilling company will put a gathering line between wells and then to a larger line to wheverever. The route has not yet been decided upon but it seems it will probably be across my land westward to another gas well. I estimate the distance across my property to be perhaps 2000 feet. About 15 acres of open land now being used for cutting hay from and the rest being old pasture now grown up to brush. A creek crossing and then across another area of open land. Then up a rather steep bank to a wooded area with sizeable trees. The woods are probably about 600 or so feet to the line fence.
My question is what is a good price to ask for the pipeline crossing? And what can I expect concerning the logs and treetops. I burn firewood
Looking at a map the young man brought for me to look at, the route between wells is nearly straight. There could only be a small detour around a house and a new sewer system just installed.
Any ideas or information will be appreciated
Bill Ladd
Thomas Wentzler
Thanks, Bill. I am in Lycoming county, Eldred Township; may be too far away. But interested if you think distance is not an issue.
As to the pipeline pricing, I argued that the ROW would limit my use of the land and therefore, drop its intrinsic value. They gave me better than average prices.
Sep 1, 2015
Thomas Lilli
In my opinion, pipeline companies are trolling for real cheap ROW's to sell to other pipeline companies when things pick up in our area. There have been cases where pipeline companies have purchased ROW's for a few dollars a foot and sold them for ten to fifteen times the price plus flowage royalties. O&G companies bought many of our leases for $5 to $50 dollars per acre and sold them in the height of leasing boom at $4K-$5K per acre and 20% royalty not to mention the addendums. They reaped the profits, not our neighbors.
We're talking about tens of millions of dollars made off unsuspecting land owners.
I've been approached by one company at $17/ foot when the same company is paying two to three times that much within a hundred miles of me. Pipe line ROW's are going for ten times that price in other areas. I'm not going to supplement the O&G industry any longer and I suggest none of us in Tioga County do either.
We have something O&G needs. They are drilling and leasing land. They NEED pipeline. They are not going to GIVE UP on pipelines. They will pay us what the ROW's are worth. We may just have to wait.
Sep 2, 2015
william Allen. Ladd
Is there anyone here who might clue me in to what the value of an acre of "Row" might be worth? I will lose about 7 Acres for "ROW". all together I have about 15 A of "brushy" old pasture land that will lose about 2 Acres to "ROW". Another three acres of open hay or cropland and the rest in timber will be lost to "ROW".
I'm a little undecided about the selling the saleable logs myself. I might allow the pipeline to excerize their option to sell the logs. And I wonder if the chipping of stumps and brush will just be left on the ground or will chips be sold? I am hoping to have treetops brought down to a place I can get to them. I no longer have a tractor or a suitable access for a pickup truck to get to the tops.
Any input will be helpful.
Thank you.
Bill Ladd
To Brian Day. I have in my possession, the original deeds, that have the exact dimensions of my property listed on them. A little mathematical effort on my part with the help of a calculator solved that problem.
Again! I thank every one who has helped me solve the pipeline problem
Bill L.
Sep 28, 2015