I think if you are considering joining the MP&cx group it would
Be in your best interest to verify all information you are given
And told. I would recommend taping all verbal promises they tell
You. It would help in any future law suits against them you might have.
They have already showen how competent they are or are not.
Jodie, According to Halcon's 4/15 press release, they are supposed to test Allam soon. "Early May" is what the statement said. The rumor mill is confirming the same thing, possibly even this week. Unfortunately, we still might not know for months how it did.
Since January 1, 2013 Shell (SWEPI) has seven new permits for unconventional wells in Mercer County and Halcon has six! I do not know in what townships these permits are located but someone with a bit more computer savvy than I have should be able to post this information. J. R. Ewing, are you out there??
Thanks Berk: My property is in Venango County.....unfortunately! But at least it is in the northwest quadrant of Venango County and only a few miles from the Mercer County line. Nevertheless, it is concerning that there have been no horizontal well permits issued to any O&G company for the entire year of 2013 thru April 30. I think that we all have to accept the fact that the geology for Mercer County must be better. I can't think of any other reason why there is so little activity thus far in Venango County.
The disappearance of this thread is outrageous. The thread was very informational and had no objectionable posts by anyone. Keith Mauck needs to get this thread restored intact and he needs to tell us how this happened. I can't imagine that he scrubbed the thread but who else could?? If the identity of the perpetrator can be learned, that person needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! I am nearly computer illiterate but there must be an electronic footprint to identify the culprit. John Stanton III got this thread started and he has provided a lot of information and it has stimulated good input from others. Mr. Mauck, I await your prompt response. For the record, I doubt very much that you did this!
Venango County site members! Please flood Mr. Mauck's mailbox with inquiries until this issue is explained or resolved or both! This is unacceptable! We will NOT accept being hacked or censored!
Just got home, driving down the road I live on you can see the bright orange sky from the Allam well flaring, looks like the whole sky is on fire. I live about 3 miles from the well.
Anybody out there with any more news about the Allam well? (This site is once again deader than a dead cat.) James, have you gotten or can you get, any more news to confirm what was said about the Allam well to a friend of your brother??
I have heard nothing new about the Allam well Samuel, I heard Shell hasnt got their budgeting yet for this year so thats one reason why leasing has been slowed up in this area. I think Shell is going to start leasing again in the Mercer/Venango county area IMO from what Ive heard.
Samuel, according to Halcon's permit, Desko 2-H location is GPS coordinates 41.255763, -79.8964, which gives me a physical address of 253-543 Bullion Rd., Kennerdell, PA 16374. Looking satellite image it looks like the well will be off the road behind the tree line in the oval shaped clearing. Looks a pond of some sort in the northwest corner.
OK, Sam here is a bit of news; so wake the cat up if you can. Halcon presents at the Enercom conference tomorrow in Denver. Their slide presentation is available today, however, and besides talking about the Trumbull County well (which they are ecstatic about) they also say this about Venango: "Allam 1H: 2nd most important well across the Utica play to-date -- test rate 1,654 Boe/d -- extends the play to the NE by approx. 90 miles". OK, ok not much I know but hey its somethin'.
Work is progressing on the pipeline connecting Allam to Rainbow. Gravel has been spread over the site of the temporary workspace where the boring machine is to be placed. But, like I've said, they move slowly.....a few trees taken down in March, stakes and ribbons about May and then yesterday I noticed the gravel. Earlier in the day I saw a big oversized machine pass me on Valley Road and thought it might be the boring machine, but nothing on the pad except gravel. By the way, the temporary workspace is located on the downhill side of Valley Road about 1.25 miles from 62. And yes, I know for certain what it is for...it is on my land.
Work is progressing, just not the kind of work we'd like to see. Instead of putting pipe in the ground, they are seeding and mulching the pipeline row. No pipeline now until at least sometime next year. Very disappointing. HK drilled what is called a cellar or basement hole on the Rainbow pad with a small rig last week and then took the rig over to the Allam site. I'm guessing that is what Debbie saw on Valley Road. Just the drill bit, or "auger" is about 8 feet in diameter.
If they used that auger at both sites, perhaps they are preparing to drill more wells at the Allam as well as one or more at the Rainbow. Seems if they are getting the BOE at the Allam that RR said, they would want to drill more there ASAP.
I have approximately 180 acres of Oil and Gas interests for sale in Venango County. Properties are split into 7 parcels ranging in size from 4 acres to 100. Located in various townships. Price is lower than you might think. I can sell as a package or individually. PM me for additional information. This discussion is not being started as a pro/con to selling.
Since Sam seems to be asleep at the switch, I will step in for him momentarily.
This site is Deader than a Dead Cat!
Somewhat understandable given that HK has ceased pipeline work and now is finishing up paving the roads that they had bonded. It looks more and more like they're leaving for greener, or oilier pastures...
Any word on the new pipeline referenced at the top of the discussions here? Is it still a go or on hold? Have they done any work on it or is it online? Who is the company, what size line?
Got a letter in the mail from Dieffenbauch & Hritz(an engineering firm in Morgantown, WV)saying Halcon is applying for a new permit to drill a vertical well on Rainbow pad and that water testing will be done again within 3000 feet of well. Anyone care to speculate about why they are now planning to drill a vertical well instead of a horizontal? TVD is supposed to be 8116' and into the Point Pleasant according to the permit. The permit has not hit eFACTS as of today.
My guess is that they will take a lot of bore samples and down-hole tests and then amend the permit for a horizontal once they know the best depths to proceed. The samples will also be used to determine the best frac mixture/techniques to use and avoid all the problems they had with the Allam well. They need to do this one faster, cheaper, and better and they should get even better results.
Hmmm. Well I suppose, but one would think they'd have gathered all of the information, etc. that they needed from the Allam well to know how to best attack a new well only 2 miles away(as the crow flies). Thanks for the reply Jim.
Well, even though we kept hearing rumors that Halcon was packing up and leaving Venango & Mercer, I still didn't want to believe it even though I'd seen the evidence first hand. It's pretty clear now that that is the case. From the 3rd Quarter Earnings and Operational Update - " In the near-term, the Company anticipates it will limit drilling in this play to the Southwest portion of its acreage in Trumbull and Mahoning Counties, Ohio."
Pretty sure that his comment that they're going to stop drilling where their current sh**ty wells are, indicates Mercer & Crawford are toast. Not real hopeful on Venango after his less than stellar remarks about the infrastructure CAPEX, or lack thereof. Looks like we're a LONG way off...
I'm just a landowner, already leased to Halcon. . .got paid and everything You folks chittering and chattering about Halcon moving out of Venango Co. must not have learned of the large lease signing Halcon did this past summer with the group I belong to. Or that they apparently are planning two more wells very close to Allam. With all the money they have sunk into our group leasing alone, and the gas lines they are working on right here, I wouldn't think it very prudent for them to just up and pull out now, would you? Gas companies are sneaky little buggers, no one knows what they are doing, where they are doing it and with whom, but you silly boys are certainly entertaining to read, all your "speculations" and "theories"! Have a good day!
Um, we're chittering and chattering about Halcon leaving Venango and Mercer and Crawford because their CEO, Floyd Wilson announced it to the world yesterday... No speculations or theories. And if you're naive enough to think for one minute they won't leave prepared pads and rows sit and rot, you'd be dead wrong. It is done all the time.
Looking at this same topic being discussed in the General Discussions , I thought the reference was to the Utica in nothern Trumbull County , OH......? Is Halcon targeting the Utica in Venango? I would think the Marcellus and Upper "D" would prove wetter than your Utica.
JR; but Halcon just leased a couple thousand more acres in Venango Co. Thats 10-15 Mil that they spent just a couple of months ago to expand their footprint in Venango. Doubt they would do that if they were pulling out.
His crappy wells comment was more about northern Trumbelll Co in Ohio, a long way from Venango.
The delays in Venango and Mercer are due to pipeline issues. And Halcon is having cash flow issues so they cannot drill wells and sit on them until pipelines are in place. They will drill where they can get quick access to the markets until they improve their cash flow issues.
Thanks Jim. I actually like your interpretation of the report and conference call, but he didn't specifically reference any county names EXCEPT the counties(areas)that they would be concentrating their efforts in which were southern Trumbell and northern Mahoning. The whole point being, that they are ceasing well drilling and pipeline building in Crawford, Mercer, Venango in lieu of southern Trumbell and northern Mahoning. I completely understand why, but that does not make it any easier to swallow. lol I of course was aware of the additional leases put on and the additional wells planned for Allam and even others, but the whole point is that those plans appear to have been put on hold for the forseeable future, wouldn't you agree? Yes, they could still return and resume activity at a later date(maybe a couple of years?), but I'm not holding my breath. Based on Floyd's comments, including his obvious disdain for the terrain, wetlands and culture in NW PA, I don't think they'll be in any rush to return.
He said no development "for several quarters." That could be less than a year. Doesn't sound like several years or more. But a lot depends on both pipeline improvements and the nat gas market/price. And of course, the Shell cracker plant.
It could be that the wetlands and other issues are causing delays in permitting. Maybe lines will go in as soon as permits are issued. That would be a year or so. Perhaps Shell will assume all the Halcon W Pa acreage. Or some other company with the deep pockets to put in the infrastructure needed.
I agree Jim, I personally know several of the landowners that were leased just a few months ago by Halcon and I can't say who, but I have recently been in talks to a landman from another company that's interested in leasing our property which is just a couple miles from the Allam well. This area has slowed, but far from dead.
the two of us
Be in your best interest to verify all information you are given
And told. I would recommend taping all verbal promises they tell
You. It would help in any future law suits against them you might have.
They have already showen how competent they are or are not.
Mar 3, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
Once again...This site is deader than a dead cat!..???
Mar 18, 2013
Jodie Schmidt
Wells that were being fracked in Venanago?
I am in Irwin county and interested in leasing.
Mar 18, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
This site is once again deader than a dead cat!
Apr 30, 2013
Jodie Schmidt
Wells?
Apr 30, 2013
JREwing
Jodie, According to Halcon's 4/15 press release, they are supposed to test Allam soon. "Early May" is what the statement said. The rumor mill is confirming the same thing, possibly even this week. Unfortunately, we still might not know for months how it did.
Apr 30, 2013
Jodie Schmidt
My property is in Venango- Irwin township.
Thank you!
Apr 30, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
Since January 1, 2013 Shell (SWEPI) has seven new permits for unconventional wells in Mercer County and Halcon has six! I do not know in what townships these permits are located but someone with a bit more computer savvy than I have should be able to post this information. J. R. Ewing, are you out there??
Apr 30, 2013
Berk
Samuel,
Here you go!
Mercer%20County%20wells.docx
Apr 30, 2013
markkot
Berk, I wasn't able to open the 'docx', so in case Samuel, can't either I'll put them out.
Halcon: Greene - Gallagher (1), Otter Creek- Pilgram (2), and Salem- Stevenson (4)
Swepi: Lake- Shannon (5) and Perry - Mills (1)
I guess I don't have the program needed on my PC.
Apr 30, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
Thanks Berk: My property is in Venango County.....unfortunately! But at least it is in the northwest quadrant of Venango County and only a few miles from the Mercer County line. Nevertheless, it is concerning that there have been no horizontal well permits issued to any O&G company for the entire year of 2013 thru April 30. I think that we all have to accept the fact that the geology for Mercer County must be better. I can't think of any other reason why there is so little activity thus far in Venango County.
Apr 30, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
The disappearance of this thread is outrageous. The thread was very informational and had no objectionable posts by anyone. Keith Mauck needs to get this thread restored intact and he needs to tell us how this happened. I can't imagine that he scrubbed the thread but who else could?? If the identity of the perpetrator can be learned, that person needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law! I am nearly computer illiterate but there must be an electronic footprint to identify the culprit. John Stanton III got this thread started and he has provided a lot of information and it has stimulated good input from others. Mr. Mauck, I await your prompt response. For the record, I doubt very much that you did this!
May 10, 2013
JREwing
May 10, 2013
james
Just got home, driving down the road I live on you can see the bright orange sky from the Allam well flaring, looks like the whole sky is on fire. I live about 3 miles from the well.
May 10, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
Anybody out there with any more news about the Allam well? (This site is once again deader than a dead cat.) James, have you gotten or can you get, any more news to confirm what was said about the Allam well to a friend of your brother??
May 17, 2013
james
I have heard nothing new about the Allam well Samuel, I heard Shell hasnt got their budgeting yet for this year so thats one reason why leasing has been slowed up in this area. I think Shell is going to start leasing again in the Mercer/Venango county area IMO from what Ive heard.
May 17, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
There is a new permit for a Desko II well. Does anyone know where Desko II is in relation to Desko I??
May 28, 2013
RoughRice
Samuel, according to Halcon's permit, Desko 2-H location is GPS coordinates 41.255763, -79.8964, which gives me a physical address of 253-543 Bullion Rd., Kennerdell, PA 16374. Looking satellite image it looks like the well will be off the road behind the tree line in the oval shaped clearing. Looks a pond of some sort in the northwest corner.
May 28, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
RoughRice: This well then appears to be the most southern and the most eastern Halcon permit in Venango.
May 28, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
Any news? or is this site once again Deader Than a Dead Cat??
Jun 1, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
13 hours later and the site is still Deader Than a Dead Cat!???
Jun 1, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
Hard to believe! The site remains Deader than a Dead Cat! No posts to Comment Wall since June 2, 2013. No posts to any thread since July 5, 2013 !!??
Jul 23, 2013
Debi Solomon
Samuel, I wish there was some activity in Venango County to comment on. Unfortunately its feels like oil and gas has forgotten we are here.
Jul 23, 2013
p umpjack
I think the dead cat just knocked the only promoter for Venango off his barstool at the foxburg inn
Aug 1, 2013
Jim Litwinowicz
Actually, I fell asleep waiting for my $200 gift certificate someone owes me......
Aug 12, 2013
RoughRice
OK, Sam here is a bit of news; so wake the cat up if you can. Halcon presents at the Enercom conference tomorrow in Denver. Their slide presentation is available today, however, and besides talking about the Trumbull County well (which they are ecstatic about) they also say this about Venango: "Allam 1H: 2nd most important well across the Utica play to-date -- test rate 1,654 Boe/d -- extends the play to the NE by approx. 90 miles". OK, ok not much I know but hey its somethin'.
Aug 12, 2013
Jim Litwinowicz
RoughRice; if that is accurate it would be huge news.
Aug 12, 2013
Debbie
Work is progressing on the pipeline connecting Allam to Rainbow. Gravel has been spread over the site of the temporary workspace where the boring machine is to be placed. But, like I've said, they move slowly.....a few trees taken down in March, stakes and ribbons about May and then yesterday I noticed the gravel. Earlier in the day I saw a big oversized machine pass me on Valley Road and thought it might be the boring machine, but nothing on the pad except gravel. By the way, the temporary workspace is located on the downhill side of Valley Road about 1.25 miles from 62. And yes, I know for certain what it is for...it is on my land.
Aug 13, 2013
JREwing
Work is progressing, just not the kind of work we'd like to see. Instead of putting pipe in the ground, they are seeding and mulching the pipeline row. No pipeline now until at least sometime next year. Very disappointing. HK drilled what is called a cellar or basement hole on the Rainbow pad with a small rig last week and then took the rig over to the Allam site. I'm guessing that is what Debbie saw on Valley Road. Just the drill bit, or "auger" is about 8 feet in diameter.
Aug 13, 2013
Jim Litwinowicz
If they used that auger at both sites, perhaps they are preparing to drill more wells at the Allam as well as one or more at the Rainbow. Seems if they are getting the BOE at the Allam that RR said, they would want to drill more there ASAP.
Aug 13, 2013
Samuel J. Orr
This site is Deader than a Dead Cat!
Aug 15, 2013
JREwing
http://www.amazon.com/101-Uses-Dead-Simon-Bond/dp/0517545160
May as well turn the lemons into lemonade, eh?
Aug 26, 2013
Berk
Now that was funny. You just made my Monday.
Aug 26, 2013
Debbie
Big progress.....they put up a stake with an information tube attached.
Aug 26, 2013
Upton Sinclair
I have approximately 180 acres of Oil and Gas interests for sale in Venango County. Properties are split into 7 parcels ranging in size from 4 acres to 100. Located in various townships. Price is lower than you might think. I can sell as a package or individually. PM me for additional information. This discussion is not being started as a pro/con to selling.
Sep 3, 2013
JREwing
Since Sam seems to be asleep at the switch, I will step in for him momentarily.
This site is Deader than a Dead Cat!
Somewhat understandable given that HK has ceased pipeline work and now is finishing up paving the roads that they had bonded. It looks more and more like they're leaving for greener, or oilier pastures...
Sep 12, 2013
JREwing
Anyone else attending the Supply Chain Basics seminar tomorrow at Crosscreek Resort in Titusville?
Oct 9, 2013
Jim Litwinowicz
Any word on the new pipeline referenced at the top of the discussions here? Is it still a go or on hold? Have they done any work on it or is it online? Who is the company, what size line?
Oct 18, 2013
JREwing
Got a letter in the mail from Dieffenbauch & Hritz(an engineering firm in Morgantown, WV)saying Halcon is applying for a new permit to drill a vertical well on Rainbow pad and that water testing will be done again within 3000 feet of well. Anyone care to speculate about why they are now planning to drill a vertical well instead of a horizontal? TVD is supposed to be 8116' and into the Point Pleasant according to the permit. The permit has not hit eFACTS as of today.
Oct 21, 2013
Jim Litwinowicz
My guess is that they will take a lot of bore samples and down-hole tests and then amend the permit for a horizontal once they know the best depths to proceed. The samples will also be used to determine the best frac mixture/techniques to use and avoid all the problems they had with the Allam well. They need to do this one faster, cheaper, and better and they should get even better results.
Oct 21, 2013
JREwing
Hmmm. Well I suppose, but one would think they'd have gathered all of the information, etc. that they needed from the Allam well to know how to best attack a new well only 2 miles away(as the crow flies). Thanks for the reply Jim.
Oct 21, 2013
JREwing
Well, even though we kept hearing rumors that Halcon was packing up and leaving Venango & Mercer, I still didn't want to believe it even though I'd seen the evidence first hand. It's pretty clear now that that is the case. From the 3rd Quarter Earnings and Operational Update - " In the near-term, the Company anticipates it will limit drilling in this play to the Southwest portion of its acreage in Trumbull and Mahoning Counties, Ohio."
Nov 5, 2013
Upton Sinclair
Pretty sure that his comment that they're going to stop drilling where their current sh**ty wells are, indicates Mercer & Crawford are toast. Not real hopeful on Venango after his less than stellar remarks about the infrastructure CAPEX, or lack thereof. Looks like we're a LONG way off...
Nov 5, 2013
Farmer Friend
I'm just a landowner, already leased to Halcon. . .got paid and everything You folks chittering and chattering about Halcon moving out of Venango Co. must not have learned of the large lease signing Halcon did this past summer with the group I belong to. Or that they apparently are planning two more wells very close to Allam. With all the money they have sunk into our group leasing alone, and the gas lines they are working on right here, I wouldn't think it very prudent for them to just up and pull out now, would you? Gas companies are sneaky little buggers, no one knows what they are doing, where they are doing it and with whom, but you silly boys are certainly entertaining to read, all your "speculations" and "theories"! Have a good day!
Nov 6, 2013
JREwing
Um, we're chittering and chattering about Halcon leaving Venango and Mercer and Crawford because their CEO, Floyd Wilson announced it to the world yesterday... No speculations or theories. And if you're naive enough to think for one minute they won't leave prepared pads and rows sit and rot, you'd be dead wrong. It is done all the time.
Nov 6, 2013
Trapper
Looking at this same topic being discussed in the General Discussions , I thought the reference was to the Utica in nothern Trumbull County , OH......? Is Halcon targeting the Utica in Venango? I would think the Marcellus and Upper "D" would prove wetter than your Utica.
Nov 6, 2013
Jim Litwinowicz
JR; but Halcon just leased a couple thousand more acres in Venango Co. Thats 10-15 Mil that they spent just a couple of months ago to expand their footprint in Venango. Doubt they would do that if they were pulling out.
His crappy wells comment was more about northern Trumbelll Co in Ohio, a long way from Venango.
The delays in Venango and Mercer are due to pipeline issues. And Halcon is having cash flow issues so they cannot drill wells and sit on them until pipelines are in place. They will drill where they can get quick access to the markets until they improve their cash flow issues.
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Nov 6, 2013
JREwing
Thanks Jim. I actually like your interpretation of the report and conference call, but he didn't specifically reference any county names EXCEPT the counties(areas)that they would be concentrating their efforts in which were southern Trumbell and northern Mahoning. The whole point being, that they are ceasing well drilling and pipeline building in Crawford, Mercer, Venango in lieu of southern Trumbell and northern Mahoning. I completely understand why, but that does not make it any easier to swallow. lol I of course was aware of the additional leases put on and the additional wells planned for Allam and even others, but the whole point is that those plans appear to have been put on hold for the forseeable future, wouldn't you agree? Yes, they could still return and resume activity at a later date(maybe a couple of years?), but I'm not holding my breath. Based on Floyd's comments, including his obvious disdain for the terrain, wetlands and culture in NW PA, I don't think they'll be in any rush to return.
Nov 6, 2013
Jim Litwinowicz
He said no development "for several quarters." That could be less than a year. Doesn't sound like several years or more. But a lot depends on both pipeline improvements and the nat gas market/price. And of course, the Shell cracker plant.
It could be that the wetlands and other issues are causing delays in permitting. Maybe lines will go in as soon as permits are issued. That would be a year or so. Perhaps Shell will assume all the Halcon W Pa acreage. Or some other company with the deep pockets to put in the infrastructure needed.
Tough business to understand and/or predict.
Nov 6, 2013
james
Nov 6, 2013