What are the minimum well pad and the minimum tank pad sizes?

I have received a proposal to construct a well (or wells) on my property. The well pad is designed to be 400ft by 300 ft. the adjacent tank pad is now designed to be 150ft by 205ft. Are these sizes the real minimum or are they for the logistic convienience of the driller. The well pad width  in particular, is a problem for me. I of course would like to reduce both pads to the minimum.

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Permalink Reply by Tom R on June 23, 2013 at 2:55am

I can't say if the 300 X 400 is a minimum size for a well pad but every plat map I've seen has the pad at that size. Having watched a few sites during the drilling process I can tell you they pretty much use every square foot of that space while they are working on a well. I'm in the dry gas area of PA so tank pads are not a common feature, they just have the produced water tanks right on the well pad site.

Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on June 24, 2013 at 3:57pm

As a former member of a fracking crew I have been on several pads that I wished were that big!

Permalink Reply by Jason on June 24, 2013 at 5:08pm
Former member / have you moved on? What happened? You can private message me if needed.
Permalink Reply by Robert Brown on June 25, 2013 at 1:21am

Not sure what your comment means--possibly you have the wrong person.

Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on June 25, 2013 at 1:38am

Jason was asking me a question as he knew I was part of a fracking crew.

Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on June 24, 2013 at 5:56pm

Check these pads out, notice the size of the trucks in some of the pics and the room they take up , as you can see there is no 300x400' pad unless you might want to call the frac pond part of the pad.

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bridgeport,+WV&hl=en&ll=39.2...

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bridgeport,+WV&hl=en&ll=39.2...

Hopefully those links work, lol

Permalink Reply by Tom R on June 25, 2013 at 2:54am

I checked out your links (they do work) and tracked in on the area in Google Earth, used the measuring tool and it looks like if you exclude the ponds the pads run around 200' X 300' with a few in the area down to 150' X 300'. My area is in PA and measured quite a number of local pads, pretty uniformly 300' X 400' but up here none of the pads have the frac pond as part of the site. Water is either trucked in or piped from shared impoundments. Maybe a difference in state regulations? Not sure what the practice is in Ohio.

Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on June 25, 2013 at 4:16am

 Another factor though you must consider is not only the actual pad (drilling and frac area

if you will) but the area outside of it that is affected by grade reduction, slope, road, even traffic areas upon approach.

Permalink Reply by Robert Brown on June 25, 2013 at 1:48pm

Yea, thats also a big concern. Particularly the roads. My lease stated 25 ft plus 6ft each side for grading. the proposal has 75 ft each side cleared aswell as 75 ft beyond pad(s) escavation. Lease was for 6 acres--now they want 12. Sure wont sign the drill agreement they have proposed, but I do want to be reasonable. Thanks for the comments.

Permalink Reply by Robert Brown on June 25, 2013 at 1:57pm

Thanks for the reply. All the pads here in Belmont co. Ohio require trucked water. Still the additional tank pad is substantial. Amazing is the reluctance of the gas guys to provide a project plan---as an old retired engineer, this reluctance usually mean they know it would be bad news for me and complicate the drill agreement. Defiantly need a competent legal firm before signing anything.

Permalink Reply by Booger on June 25, 2013 at 5:30am

check this WV pad out......cool looking.....don't want to get too close to the edge.

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Permalink Reply by Robert Brown on June 25, 2013 at 1:50pm

That just cant be real!! Though the coal guys get away with murder down there.

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