60 MINUTES TO AIR "SHALEIONAIRES"
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Permalink Reply by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on
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I think you should man up and post your real identity if you want to continue this conversation. I have never hidden mine, and neither has Sherry.
Robin Fehrenbach Scala
Factoryville PA
Give me a call! I'd love to chat.
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Permalink Reply by Sherry on
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Could you please point out where I lied? I can provide backup for the original number of people involved in the lawsuit, editorials written by people who accepted the mediation effects to their satisfaction, thus removing themselves from the lawsuit, I could dig up the news articles where you told installers and drillers you wouldn't allow them on your property, I can post your interview on Trailer Talk when the blame for the water contamination turns from the original determination of faulty casing to fracing-related methane migration - contrary to the DEP's actual report of findings, I can provide a link to a property on Carter Road listed at $250,000, the same price it was listed at a two years ago, neither having decreased or increased in market value, and I quoted what you, in your very own words, have said. It's just that in my experience, people who have a beef with something or someone want to see the person who hurt or harmed them get what's coming to THEM, the offender. Your words reflect just the opposite. My humble opinion is just that, my opinion. Sorry I used so much verifiable data in justifying it.
If one must resort to name calling, the battle has already been lost by that person. If you cannot provide more intelligent fodder to debate with, and must resort to personal attacks, then this is my final posting to you on this subject in this thread.
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Permalink Reply by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on
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However, they better start packing up because Dimock may not want them anymore. Come to think of it, I betcha their new anti-drilling friends from NYC won't be inviting them to cocktail parties either.
These Carter Rd. folks are, after all, still PA hicks. Money does not improve character.
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Permalink Reply by I wanna be a SHALEIONAIRE too! on
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you look quite classy yourself! can you say face lift?
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Permalink Reply by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on
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I don't believe in them, but you can come right over and take a look with a magnifier. Heck, I'll come up to Carter Rd this afternoon!!
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Permalink Reply by Todd Charles on
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Thanks, Sherry Hart, in pointing out some very salient facts about the Dimock case. If it truly had been about "clean drinking water" - and that issue is being corrected and resolved - why is it now suddenly not enough ? Because greed, once again, has trumped honesty and integrity.
Unfortunately - money, or the lack of it - so often corrupts the hearts of people.
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Permalink Reply by Brenda Rezvan on
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The disrespectful comments and name calling are more telling than the "facts" that are being cited. All people deserve clean drinking water, and should not have to gratefully line up for their distribution as if they are in a refugee camp...a water line would most assuredly enhance the property values and that would be some compensation for the trouble these fine people (whom I don't know) have been through. Please stop name calling and stop trying to assign motivations to people. I will assume that people want to have clean drinking water, because I do.
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Permalink Reply by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on
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How is it that name calling is only perceived to be happening when landowners bring up facts to others?
Have you seen some of the personal attacks I have endured here and on multiple other forums? I can direct you to hundreds. Most of them started by Jim Barth and his cronies.
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Brenda,
People should have the right to clean drinking water. The Dimock folk have had that trucked to them for almost two year and I agree that should not have to be the case. However, remember these few remaining holdouts CHOSE to deny the other options found to be satisfactory for other effected residents.
Their refusal of the options has resulted in a gamble with our PA taxpayers money. Pennvest, with the guidance of DEP Secretary Hanger, voted to extend a pipeline from Montrose at the cost of $12 Million dollars. While Hanger has said it is not an expense the taxpayers will be responsible for in the end, he is betting a court will find Cabot guilty and require them to reimburse that cost. They hope Cabot will be held as an example to other O&G companies. I'm just not comfortable with them wagering my tax dollars to make an example when there were other satisfactory options available for this small group of people. That is why I believe these Dimock folk are being used as pawns to further a number of groups agendas including their own.
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Taxpayers (I would go up to the federal level--it's the exemption from the Clean Water Act that irks me) owe a huge debt to the families in Dimock who were made the proverbial "canaries in the coal mine," in the early stages of this wave of gas development. Because of them, and their insistence upon being viewed as equal human beings and U.S. citizens, Pennsylvania citizens can be proud that their state has slowed down unfettered exploitation of these resources. This type of pollution (and denial by the gas drillers) has been going on for probably close to a decade in Wyoming, New Mexico, and elsewhere. Look to another industry, mountaintop removal coal mining, which has been ruining the environment (and the long term outlook for sustainable prosperity) in certain West Virginia communities. As in PA, where the smaller communities with low-income people tend to be marginalized, the lack of regulation is now being examined (thanks to a few stubborn "holdouts"), and mountaintop removal has been temporarily halted. There's no need to halt the gas industry in PA, there IS a need to make it accountable and to examine how the regulations (or lack thereof) have fallen short, causing situations such as Dimock's to be possible. We owe a debt to the people of Dimock for bearing the brunt of this. In another time they would have rebelled against George III...in still another time, they would have provided stops on the "underground railroad." "Sic semper tyrannis."
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I agree gas companies should be held responsible.
However, I don't believe taxpayers should have to pay when other satisfactory options were available and Cabot has already been assessed $360,000 in fines as well as paying $30,000 a month. Also bearing the brunt of this is the community of Montrose whose residents wonder if the reservoir the extended pipeline will draw from can handle the increased demand as other residences and possibly future businesses pay fees to hook up to it.
By the way, did you notice "part-of-it" changed his/her name to "I want to be a Shaleionaire too". While your comments are appreciative of his/her actions, his/her one word responses and willingness to change and embellish the causes of their contamination make me wonder if he/she deserves your praise.
All I can do from here is to agree to disagree with you.
Best wishes and Happy Thanksgiving,
Sherry Hart
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Permalink Reply by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on
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As I recall some of these Dimock "canaries in a coal mine" became that way by signing gas leases.
Now they are not happy with the deal. There is very little else involved.
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