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If one more peson tells me they have a site I'm going to explode.
This is why no one can hear any of us. you have a blue million half *** sites. You all know what busiess we are in by now, and from the looks of it, most everyone here has their own site as well. Great,
how many of those 45 year old farmers and roughnecks doing 7 20 hour days per week have time to look at tall of them?
Gasland was paid for by wind farm money and connected to a man with the ablity to fib, after all that is what actors do right? That is what he is. Also this industry reall has no need to screw about with opening NY. Why would they want to? to drill more wells than they have rigs for? to lower the price of gas?
Chuck-- Perhaps Josh Fox does somewhat falsely portray himself as merely a young concerned citizen with a camcorder, who set out on a journey west to find out the truth about gas drilling. We all know that he brought along a lot more baggage that that!
Nevertheless, give credit where it is due.... the man is a genius at guerrilla marketing and has managed to catapult his dodgy documentary into the big time--even getting an Academy Award nomination.
Doubtless the wind and coal lobbies have jumped on his bandwagon. Who could blame them. Everyone loves a winner.
Keith makes an excellent point. Unless the industry has unlimited funds for this aspect of their business, then maybe they should start asking for more bang for the buck! --Tom
Tom, you can't get any more bang for the buck cuz you can't make a buck getting a bang.
HE was paid by the wind company first... wasn't like he did the film and then they said "wow Great idea". The wind farms and Green people are easy to agree with and they by tickeets, funding the very ad campain. But who will buy tickets to a pro gas film?
The film is a self promoting, profitable, and popular with the largest market audence
we are gas and oil... a bunch of rich white men everyone loves to hate. But a film that hates them has many viewers and can make money.
as to his award, I'll take a paycheck over a paperweaght any day.
Chuck-- Sometimes it makes a lot more sense merely to say nothing at all, rather than overreact. And, guess what? It costs a lot less. That's not to say good quality, focused information shouldn't be made available for those who want to learn the real story.
In a way, by challenging the Josh Foxs of the world, it only lends credibility to their claims and makes people want to sit up and listen to what they have to say.
Why blow wind into their sails? --Tom
Yep
That is what we've been doing. Those who suport us, are...those who are not never will UNLESS we want to pay off the ppl they do listen to.
Basicly, in respect to the origional subject, yes we are winning. We are drilling are we not?
Sticking our heads in the sand in FAR from the answer. You can't fight ignorance with indifference. Ignorance leaves people susceptible to people like Mr. Fox.
While I agree that it's going to be very hard to bring back those we have already lost, more and more people are lining up on one side or the other every day. Those are the people we need to be engaging and educating.
eh? if you are want to reach those ppl THIS is not the place to do it. No offence, but I see ether ppl with questions on this site or people with something to sell.
SO put a progas sign in your yard, spend only 2 dollar bills (my program) or get a bumpersticker, but we are far from putting our heads in the sand.
we are putting drill bits in the shale. say, what will it matter when waterless fracturing is the norm?
Mr. Copely was suggesting that the industry say nothing at all.
Also, what makes you think that waterless fracing will ever be the norm?
It won't be the norm, it won't even be used in a decade. It's costly, crummy press ect. that will be current headlines later on.
I think Tom's point in the right point. We are drilling I have been following pa/ny marcelluse drilling for 10 years. Most ppl didn't start to think about it till 2-4 years ago. Why? few reasons, but when you were not thinking of it, it was being drilled and no one was talking.
Say nothing, don't call attion to yourself, and let Mike Moore and Josh Fox shoot footage of arrasoll cans or foam boxes or the anti gay marrage ppl.
Do enough to keep your own ppl happy, and do what you pay us for, drill for oil.
go on Youtube and look for Drill'n Man, Mansfield PA, API. See what we did for the industry.
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