GREED

It seems to be an ugly issue affecting a lot of people. From oil and gas companies to landowners, everyone seems to be letting greed cloud their judgement and rule their decisions.

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Permalink Reply by David Perotto on July 11, 2012 at 9:13am

Joshua,

Is there something bugging you?

Dave

Permalink Reply by Jack Straw on July 11, 2012 at 9:30am

When an individual or company does what they consider to be in their best financial interests, those actions are often seen to be driven by Greed by those jealous of the good fortune or financial acumen of the individual or company.

Envy is a very ugly emotion.

 

JS

 

  

Permalink Reply by Marinell on July 11, 2012 at 12:20pm

Greed or NEED?

Permalink Reply by dan gladyszewski on July 11, 2012 at 2:07pm

Joshua, It would help to know if you live in an urbanized or rural area before some answers are given as to why, as you put it, "greed", appears to be a motive on our part.

Permalink Reply by jason smith on July 11, 2012 at 4:52pm
Greed is one who lives off the backs of hard working tax paying Americans..
Permalink Reply by Jack Straw on July 11, 2012 at 5:57pm

RE: "Greed is one who lives off the backs of hard working tax paying Americans."

Glad to hear that.

As my Family hopes to eventually benefit from the potential royalties from land that our hard working tax paying American family have been farming and paying taxes on for more that 70 years - I am glad that we do not qualify under your definition of "Greedy".

Although we have only owned our present farm land for these few years, our ancestors have been farming in PA since arriving in America in 1691.

Also, those tax paying Companies that have worked hard to extract oil and Gas (while paying taxes and reducing America's need for imported oil) do not (likewise) seem to meet your definition of Greed.

I do not see rampant greed out there, but I do see a lot of envy out there from those who have not tied themselves to the land (those who have not intertwined themselves with the land).

A lot of Urban dwellers (like the sewer rats that share their domain) are not capable of understanding the attachment a farmer has to the land his family has farmed (often for multiple generations, often for multiple centuries). It is hard for the urban dwellers to appreciate how a farmer can know and love every square inch of several hundred acres.

All IMHO,

                JS

Permalink Reply by Joshua Smith on July 12, 2012 at 4:55am

What difference does living in an urban or rural area matter? Look at the Buell Well postings on this site. That is in a rural area. Greed seems to be at work in that situation.

Permalink Reply by David Perotto on July 12, 2012 at 4:57am

Joshua,

Just what is your point, I dont get it.

Permalink Reply by Jack Straw on July 12, 2012 at 9:01am

RE: "What difference does living in an urban or rural area matter?"

If you are "urban"; you likely obtain all your information on the development of the Marcellus and Utica secondhand or thirdhand from dubious sources.

If you are "rural', you have the opportunity to observe first hand and learn and share.

If you are "urban"; you likely have no "skin in the game" - no economic interest and no meaningful knowledge.

If you are "rural', you may well have "skin in the game" and seek out facts rather than "urban legend.

If you are "rural', you likely know individuals involved and benefiting from the exploitation of natural gas.

If you are "urban", you likely have nothing to contribute to this forum - you are likely a source of misinformation.

If you are "rural", you quite likely have something to contribute to this forum - you are likely a source of information.

It makes a great deal of difference whether you are "urban" or "rural".

 

All IMHO,

                 JS

 

 

Permalink Reply by Marinell on July 12, 2012 at 5:31am

It's time to stop this conversation.

Permalink Reply by Joshua Smith on July 12, 2012 at 7:07am

Why is it time to stop this conversation?

Permalink Reply by dan gladyszewski on July 12, 2012 at 1:32pm

Joshua, I'm not 100% sure as to what you want to hear. I think Jack Straw hit the nail on the head with his post. If you are honestly trying to understand, think of it this way: You have a house in a beautiful neighborhood where it's quiet and peaceful. You've lived there 20 years or more, mowing the lawn , painting it, maybe even planting a garden and raising children. Now comes a company saying they would like to put a Wal-Mart right next door to you, but, they need to use half of your yard to complete it. You have nothing against Wal-Mart, but the area of your yard is where your children play, you have backyard cookouts and the biggest, shadiest tree in the neighborhood for those hot summer days. Wal-Mart offers you less than market value because they want it cheap. Plus, you are also aware of the fact that there will constant traffic, noise and bright lights shining in your windows. A major life changer. How much would your house/yard be worth now?

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