More information about FrackNation

This wont be the first time someone has mentioned the pro-drilling movie FrackNation on GMS. An article ran in the Ithaca Journal (NY), here is the link: http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=201220223...

 

It looks like they need to raise $150,000 to get the GasLand rebuttal to the finish line. According to the Kickstarter website they are now over $120,000. If we each donated $100 or more, they will probably reach their goal. The link to Kickstarter is: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1009530098/fracknation?ref=live

They only get your money if they reach the goal of $150,000.

 

Disclosure: I dont have any stake in this venture, dont know these people in any way. I am just hoping to move public opinion in the right direction. I hope they are successful.

Dave

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Permalink Reply by David Perotto on February 26, 2012 at 8:54am

For Dave McCune, I started this discussion this morning. Maybe this information is what you where looking for on your discussion thread.

Permalink Reply by Dave on February 26, 2012 at 9:46am

with a monniker like David you got to be alright

got it and thx

I did not check all the posts but I wanted to be glory hog........

 

drill baby drill then kick it to the right....

Permalink Reply by Daniel T. Richards on March 25, 2012 at 8:00am

Thanks for the mention, David.

I work for FrackNation as their director of new media. If you have any questions about the project, please feel free to shoot me a message.

Just a quick update: We've now raised close to $170,000. All small donations from 2,590 contributors. 

Permalink Reply by David Perotto on March 25, 2012 at 12:38pm
Daniel,
I am proud to say that I did give a small donation to your cause. I wish you the best of luck, the facts are on your side.
Dave
Permalink Reply by Tanya Gabriele on April 4, 2012 at 3:29pm

David, are you saying that the claims Gasland is making are bogus?  Didn't people in your State file a class action lawsuit against the O & G companies for contamination?

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on April 4, 2012 at 4:15pm

The majority of the Gasland movie has been debunked and found to be a lot of hot air.

Permalink Reply by David Perotto on April 4, 2012 at 5:08pm
Yes, that is what i am saying. Gasland is now shown to be factually incorrect. Even the EPA says so.
Permalink Reply by Tanya Gabriele on April 5, 2012 at 6:41pm

Where are these anti-Gasland people from?  What proof do they have that Gasland is a fraud?  I have to tell you, when I first heard the claims made by Gasland and the people of New Wilmington, Pa. I called the EPA.  I also called ODNR.  Neither agency is in the practice of proactively testing water quality for hazardous elements.  Their budget does not allow it.  The EPA won't test water unless ODNR sees immediate death and destruction as a result of it.  There are no studies to monitor community health over time to determine if residents develop auto-immune disorders, cancer, or any other systemic conditions related to contamination.  ODNR says the State of Ohio has agreed to let the O & G industry monitor water quality.  And federal law does not require the O & G industry to be accountable for meeting safe drinking water standards.  The tests used to determine the quality of drinking water do not test for all possible contaminants.  That means water may pass the conventional test and still be loaded with carcinogens.  I am only reporting the situation because I know for lack of due process, handling, and custody of water samples--that their is no way anyone can prove the O & G Industry and fracking is contaminating acquifers.  Yet--that doesn't mean it has not happened. 

Permalink Reply by David Perotto on April 5, 2012 at 7:33pm

Tanya,

Please think critically. There are no documented occurences of fracing causing the contamination of a water aquifer. The well bore is the only place contamination can ever contaminate an aquifer (based upon the depth involved). These occurences are extremely rare, based upon the thousands of wells in the marcellus/utica. There are only a handful of casing failures known, and these failures may not be causing any contamination of water sources. Yet Gasland leads the viewer to believe that it is prevelant. Furthermore, it never reveals that the methane contamination in water wells is typically biogenic, not thermogenic. This point is the most revealing. The water well contamination, by methane, has been going on for decades. This contamination has been as a result of drilling the water well & hitting a vane of natural gas. The cause has not been hydrofracing, but naturally occuring, biogenic gas. Gasland distorts the truth.

Wyoming, Texas and Pennsylvania are the areas used to show that oil and gas have caused contamintation. All three have been proved that the epa prematurely accused the industry, no factual proof has shown the industry caused any of this contamination. You state that the epa doesnt proactively test water quality, you are correct - it is not their job to do so. You also state that there is no way to prove the O & G industry is contaminating aquifers. That is false. The testing would reveal biogenic/thermogenic methane, this is the most likely contaminate as it would migrate more readily.

Permalink Reply by Tanya Gabriele on April 7, 2012 at 5:13pm

I think you forgot about the class action law suit your State filed as well.  From the articles I read--posted by the EPA well water was contaminated by carbon based contaminants due to fracking.  The agency failed to investigate the possibility of other contaminants.  And yes--you are right--there are contaminants that are naturally present.  But, as I pointed out, we do not have a regulatory system that is proactively protecting the quality of our drinking water.  There is no money set aside for such testing.  And the Oil and Gas Industry is certainly not going to go beyond the call of duty to test the quality of water beyond the fringes of standard testing.  So-why waste your money building a counter claim?  Nobdy--including the federal government has enough funds and determination to prove fracking is unsfe.  Are you meaning to tell us that things are heating up in your State?  Is there new evidence?

Permalink Reply by ji on April 6, 2012 at 3:35am

Fracking does not cause ground water pollution. Fracking, however, does cause toxic air releases into the atmosphere that are detrimental to human health from the flowback water and diesel equipment used to frack the well. Flowback and production waste water may also cause surface water contamination if it is discharged thru inefficient treatment plants into waterways as was done in PA.

Methane problems in well water is usually caused by cement failure of the gas well casing. This allows methane gas to migrate from non-targeted shallower natural gas formations thru an open annulus and/or along the outside of the cement sheath into potable ground water formations in both vertical and horizontal gas wells. Recent more stringent casing and cementing  requirements may reduce methane migration into potable ground water from gas wells but there will still be significant number of cases despite regulations due to many reasons such as operator error, geologic conditions and eventual breakdown of cement.  

Methane releases and leaks from gas well equipment such as storage tanks, pipelines, compressors and other infrastructure also present another health and environmental problem.  

Permalink Reply by ji on April 6, 2012 at 3:38am

sorry about the duplicates.  

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