Tioga County, PA

Lynn,
as far as I know they have not fraced yet.... no pipeline is in yet... it will prob be 2-3 more months before production unit is established...from my own experience here in covington, they fraced the first well in august, and production didnt start until november...three wells here on my road have been fraced and burned off.. fouth one fraced but not burned off yet...be patient... if you are in the production unit you will be notified..

The company is soon beginning seismic surveys on our property. The tests should be completed by April.

Correction.............On a Prev. Post I said King Oil USA I meant Hunt Oil USA sorry :-(

If anyone is located in Rutland, Tioga or Richmond Townships and is interested in joining our group; please contact me. We currently have approximately 2000 contiguous acres of neighbors who are working together. Thanks

Had a landman from East tell me yesterday that the average royalty for the Tioga Co. area will range from $35-$55/acre why is that so much lower than what others have posted??

Wm. we had a landman tell us the number was much higher..We are in middlebury.....you can send it to my inbox or here......

Wm What township are you in?.........( This was supposed to be in the prev. post i sent sorry

Betty those numbers for royalties are for one month

I am right were Middlebury and Richmond come together.

Wm Do you the name of the landman? The landlady we have been talking to said it was in the hundreds........

Was told they are looking to get an average production rate of .75 million cubic feet per day.

Wow, most have been getting anywhere from 2.0 to 7.0

Wm. I wonder if that landman was talking about a vertical well rather than a horizontal well

I really don't know, I am going to speak with him again this weekend. Hopefully I can clear some things up.

The landman's name is Michael Goodin he represents East. I orginally was contacted by a landlady named Denise, but she no longer works for the company.

Royalty amount can depend on if it is taken from the well head price or after the driller takes out some expenses. Also, the market price of gas fluctuates a lot. Most of all, I think these land men are given a bag of bullshit to dole out to get you to sign what they want. i doubt seriuosly if most of them have a reall clue about royalty amounts or other fine details. God forbid they would say that they don't know something. after all, they know everything about this business- hands down - case closed.

I wonder how much the "upper management " tells the landmen. Im sure the landmen know some of the people that they are trying to get leases from. The upper management ( just like a lot of other companies ) do not tell the "lower management everything in order to not "tip off" the landowners.........but I know for a fact that your right about the bag of BS.......they tell the landmen tell them anything so they sign. Like my lawyer said.........Rule #1 DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT A LANDMAN TELLS YOU. Rule #2 REVERT BACK TO RULE NUMBER 1 But someone knows exactly whats going on..........Sort of like buying a car..........you can get them down a little bit but they will not lose money on the deal

O & G companies have been at this game more than a century. It is very hard for any of us to catch up with that subculture. New information comes at me so fast, on a daily basi, that I would never consider my self anything but a novice on this leasing business. I have a feeling at this point in the developement of the "play" that the O & G companies are anticipating new legislature limiting what they can do. The legislature probably won't be a great surprise for them. They probably already have predicted the three or four possible types of new laws. they would have seen it time and again elsewhere.

I agree 100% Brian..........looking at the contributions these companies are giving....they probably already know the laws before they are passed.....

don't worry about new legislation. exxon has 41 billion resaons why nothing is going to happen

Josie; I assume any tracts would have to be contiguous to be of any use for drilling.

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20100607-712262.html?mod=WSJ_la...

UPDATE:Penn Orders EOG To Halt Drilling Following Well Blowout

Just for the fun of it I have been thinking of what we need most if we get this hassle straighten out and get a few dollars. First will be a different vehicle. Our vehicle is a 4 wheel drive SUV. But the front wheels do not engage properly anymore. It also uses too much oil and gasoline.

We'd like to establish a savings account of some sort for our little grandson Will for he education. He is only 4 years old now. Have also been thinking of paying off our son's college loans. He is doing pretty good with that by himself however. He had a job before he even finished college. But then was laid off. A few months later he landed an even better job and has been booted up to a better pay increase several times since.

Now he has to help us out somewhat. He is 50 years younger then I am. And his mother is 20 years younger then I am. She is a diabetic and is on disability. And now is having knee problems. I am 75 and of course retired with a very small social security.

I presume that many folks have similar problems to solve. This marcellus deposit will be a great help for us all.

Bill L.
aka Bummy

William; Yeah, I have a lot of uses for any money I get. I have an old, falling down farm that hasn't had proper care in 50 years. Since I bought it 14 years ago, all I could afford to do is keep it from collapsing...making actual improvements (paint, new windows, new electrical, etc), would be really nice! My truck is a 1989 F-150, I like it, but having money to replace it when it dies would be nice, too.

I notice in the local paper where state police have pulled most of the waste water trucks off the roads in Tioga, Bradford, Clearfield, Susquehanna and Washington counties because of safety issues. Unsafe loads, brakes and lighte were mentioned as the reasons. That's gonna set the fracking back a few days I'll bet.

Bill L.

aka Bummy

They haven't stopped them here in Delmar Township...the waste water trucks have been rolling by all morning. They are obviously fracking a well somewhere down the road.

Do you know the Ely farm Lynn? any activity on the Ely road?

Bill L.aka bummy

Bill; I'm not familiar with Ely Road. We drove around this morning and found out where they are frackinng...a well in Shippen Township. It's on Stowell Road, just off of 660, toward Harrison State Park. They (East, I assume) did major improvements on Stowell Road; in the past it was almost undrivable, now it's pretty nice. In our drive we saw several new well pads going in.

Ely road connects Buena Vista in Wellsboro street up over the hill and back down to the Catlin hollow road. The "HOWL A DAY INN" is located at the intersection of Catlin hollow road and Ely hill road. Maybe that is more familiar to you.

Bill L.
aka Bummy

Ah...I don't get out that way very often. I'm on the other side of Wellsboro, toward the Canyon.

I have property on 362 just past the canyon turnoff and have received an offer from Continental Land resources. Does anyone know of this company? I live out of state and would appreciate any and all input.

Carol; I've never heard of them. They must be a new player in this area. That's exciting. Can I ask what the offer was? I'm right on 660 toward the Canyon.

According to their website they are a lease acquisition company, not a drilling company. I'd worry that they'd hold my lease forever, waiting for a good deal.

They are wanting to lease the mineral rights for 5yrs with a 5yr option. The amount over $2000/acre with 15% royalties. Is this might be in the ball park?

Carol,
Continental Resources is representing Chesapeake Energy and is pretty active in certain townships in Tioga county right now.

Chesapeake's standard offer in this area is $3000/20% (up to $4000 in some areas of eastern Tioga Co). $2000/15% is what East is offering.

These companies all have brokers. Chesapeake uses Continental in Tioga county. Any Landman in Tioga making offers on behalf of Chesapeake is working through Continental.

No, it is Jess VanHemert.

Anyone involved with Gravel Sales

Just spoke with Jess VanHemert, Continental Land Resources representing Chesapeake Appalachia, and he told me that the leasing for Delmar Twnshp has been put on hold for the time being. Apparently, Delmar is not a top priority right now.

Since I get it by mail, I don't have it yet. But according to Google news and the "teaser" on the TP website, "Pooling act on the table, residents oppose it" is in the current issue.

Oops, that's the current issue of the Wellsboro Gazette.

A comment about the 81 year old man in Potter Brook

It would seem to me that he could have been disabled instead of a fatal shot!. This is the second killing by state police in the area. Last fall I think it was, A young man was shot by state police in the town of Harrison valley. This might have been justified since he was intent on a shoot out with police.

But couldn't that 81 year old man be just winged or shot in the leg or someplace that would only disable him? How about using smoke bonb or other kinds of weapons? Were there other people involved such as hostages or what? Details are very sketchy at best about this incident1

Bill, shooting to disable is something that happens more often on television than in real life law enforcement. Agreed that it probably wasn't handled as well as it could have been. For example, serving a mental healt warrant that could reasonably be expected to be resisted probably shouldn;t be done with only a couple hours of daylight left. But it appears that once he did threaten the officers, they withdrew, called for reinforcements, and secured the area around the house. Using tear gas or another device to force him out of the house would have been counter-productive. There was no indication he had a hostage or was otherwise a danger to the public, so they were waiting him out.

Once he came out of the house shooting, he did become a danger to the public and I don't see that the police had a choice but to fire to stop him.
It was night and if you saw the footage of the house on TV, there were evergreen trees in the yard. His age was irrelevant; he had a gun. And, he may have decided "suicide by police" was his best option. .

I drove up past the house yesterday Ann, after the incident. I am very familiar with that area. In fact I have worked there within a stone's throw of the place. They had the entire area lighted up with local fire truck flood lights. Time was on the side of the police. They could have served that paper very early in the morning I would think.


But he was an old man who probably did not have many years left. So instead of thinking of how best to take him alive, and get him to a hospital,

The cops opted to "Lets put him down and then we can all go home!"

Very little information was released. So why was there such a hush hush attitude about it?

Yeah, there's another 'boil water advisory' in Wellsboro. It's something to do with the sand filters, and it happens regularly. This time seems worse than usual. It impacts a lot of local businesses...McDonalds can't serve sodas, BiLo can't spray water on the produce, the schools have to buy in bottled water, etc.

Looks like the marcellus shale ruckus has come to a standstill at Tioga county. No gas trucks seem to be moving in the Cowanesque valley lately. I have a friend from Galeton who recently acquired a tractor to pull trailors loaded with gas pipe from Pittsburg to the Canton area. I don't know if he has made any trips as yet however.


Bill L.
aka Bummy

There's still a lot of drilling activity in southern Delmar/Shippen townships. The gravel trucks roll by constantly, and I saw a truck with drillbits looking very lost sitting by the side of the road yesterday. I haven't heard of any leasing activity in the area, though, since last June or July.

They are probably like the real estate agents here. When I was buying my property, I could never contact my agent...he was always out hunting or cutting hay or something.

The landmen that were working Tioga are probably working in another county. Most landmen spend a majority of their time travelling around to where ever the current work is......sometimes they are in the same place for years, other times, it could just be weeks.