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"Repeated Language" this reasoning negates O&G rights!?!

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I'm hoping someone may be able to shed some light on what this means. I've been talking to some landmen who have stated that due to "repeated language" that appeared in several deeds , "excepting and…Continue

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"Shelli, It’s very confusing and aggravating with the language and terms used now and in the past, My deed also stated the Pittsburgh and Mapletown coal in the most recent deeds, but the oil and gas was not? I ended up on the advice of an…"
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"The landowners deed states that the Pittsburg coal is "excepting and reserving". Next paragraph does the same with the Mapelton seam. Then the next paragraph, subject to the reservation and exception of the oil and gas as heretofore…"
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carp replied to S Isiminger's discussion '"Repeated Language" this reasoning negates O&G rights!?!'
"What’s the current surface landowners deed read? That may be of importance as well, l have from experience found that the sale, or reserve of minerals Are Not Always stated in every recorded deed."
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"Any suggestions for an attorney in Greene county?"
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Lisa McKenzie replied to S Isiminger's discussion '"Repeated Language" this reasoning negates O&G rights!?!'
"You need a lawyer to examine the exact language in your documents."
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"Repeated Language" this reasoning negates O&G rights!?!

I'm hoping someone may be able to shed some light on what this means. I've been talking to some landmen who have stated that due to "repeated language" that appeared in several deeds , "excepting and reserving" for coal, mining, oil and gas that we do not have any rights to the minerals. I know for a fact that they signed with the current landowner recently, which of course would be easier for EQT than signing with myself and numerous cousins. With that being said I've spent an extensive amount…See More
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Have not had one. We have mineral rights on several acres in Greene county from our grandparents. My sisters and I have received a contingent fee agreement from a Greene County attorney with virtually no info about what is going on. The attorney wants to take an immediate 8% from the bonus and all future royalties.
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At 2:51pm on October 5, 2010, Martha Ann Murray said…
Great to hear back from you, Cousin Shelli. I guess your Uncle Mike gave you the web address of this site, right? I gave it to him several weeks ago. I have visited with this attorney several times, and have been advised by my atty here in Ardmore NOT to give him any %age. Just pay a fee to look at a lease. My email addy is marj447@aol.com. Send me yours if you want, and we can discuss this further. We are the same side of the "tree" you know. :-)
At 10:33pm on October 2, 2010, Larry said…
Shelli,
Well no matter what you will need to sign or nothing will happen for any on you if you all own the land equal. Make sure you get your answers and if you don't think they are right. Please ask the member here to see what they think.

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At 8:07pm on October 2, 2010, Larry said…
Hi Shelli,
Whats going on with this marcellus gas is new to all of us and it has caught us all not knowing what to do for our best intrest. I to am trying to learn what to do that is best for me and my family later down the road.
As for your question (Can a PA lawyer proceed with negotiating my mineral rights if I haven't signed anything yet?) Unless you have give your power of attorney to osmeone to act in your behalf. "NO One" not even a lawer can act on your behaft in negotiating a lease with a gas Co. Did your sisters hire a lawer and he believes he is working for you as well? If so you best set the lawer straght befor it goes any more. As for paying with a % of "bonus & Royalties" "DON"T" do that.!!!!! All that will do is make them a millionair with your money for doing nothing in return. If you wish to have a lawer work on your lease pay them upfront and not with a %. No one can force you into anything. Nothing can be legal unless you sign. Learn all you can before you do anything. Time is on your side and there is no need to rush.
Larry
At 8:23pm on October 1, 2010, Larry said…
Please read some of the post here before you sign anything.
Welcome to the group.
Larry
At 5:43pm on October 1, 2010, Keith Mauck (Site Publisher) said…
I hope you haven't signed that yet??
 
 
 

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