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Permalink Reply by HMMMM! on December 12, 2011 at 2:39pm

You started running your mouth about how successful this deal was( see earlier post, but i'm sure you will delete it)when i asked who the deal was with. You really need to get your facts straight, Lensman approached us, we didn't approach them!!!! You have not stated any facts to twist. Please don't reply to me until you get some facts. Thank You.

Permalink Reply by HMMMM! on December 12, 2011 at 3:32pm

Name calling now there is a true sign of intelligence!!!!!!!! You sure sound like you were involved!!!!!!!!! So you never saw the lease but you defend it like you wrote it.........Who is the IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!HMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by HMMMM! on December 12, 2011 at 3:40pm

You make it sound like a group of people ran to Lensman for their representation. They are not from around here, they approached landowners around here. So again you say something like"The group hired Lensman". No, people were solicited to join their group, but you put down all the other people that were soliciting in this area. Take you and all your insults and crawl back under your trailer!!! You are defending lawyers that came in here with one intention, to get a cut of the money paid to landowners around here! Lawyers now there is an upstanding and honest group.........hahaha......HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by AT on December 12, 2011 at 4:09pm

HMMMM!, How many acres do you have to lease and what township is your acreage located in?

Permalink Reply by HMMMM! on December 12, 2011 at 5:29pm

 Why do i have to have an angle or be working for someone?  I happen to think CHK is a horrible Company, looked them up when DPS knocked on my door! What is it with you people, someone questions something and you guys get rude and ignorant, like H BO said if it's such a great deal why so much secrecy? Instead of questioning what my angle is why not just provide where to find out more on this company that you say has plenty of info about? Why ask ALOV you put them down in another blog for lieing to you, wipe your nose off,it's got Lensman POO on it!!!!!!!HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by HMMMM! on December 12, 2011 at 5:43pm

I see you just through in your assets of over 2 billion, how creative! So if Mr. Leeds is correct on their name,and I can guess he is by the way he was attacked on here with threat of legal action, they have all that money but can't buy a phone or get a web site!!!!!!!!!!!HMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by HMMMM! on December 12, 2011 at 5:53pm

I've been reading your replies and you are nothing but an angry man who changes his opinion almost daily, you act like you have some kind of insight but in reality you have no great info to offer anyone on here, just opinions! I suggest you act like the rest of us who are in this process for the first time and ask questions instead of giving one sided and differing answers!!!!!!!

 

Reply by psychosid on December 2, 2011 at 10:34pm

Yeah.  There were a good number of people ready to jump aboard the Buckeye Mineral Development/ALOV when this was posted and many made calls to BMD/ALOV.  I spoke to them 4 times and was told they would take anything in Belmont.  They even put me on hold and came back on to verify.  Now.....who the heck knows?  The only real offer I've seen with good lease language is from the Lensman Group.  Des still has NO lease, no matter what he's saying at the meetings this week.

• You say this on one blog then refer people to ALOV on this blog????????????Make up your mind!!!!!!!! Guess you will be back on XTO's wagon next week! We would love to see prove of these 2billion in assets where can i check this out???????? Come on tell us Psychosid.....Part of the name is right and it's not Sid!!!!!!!!Can you figure out what i meant there genius???????HMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by HMMMM! on December 13, 2011 at 2:53pm

This is what i was referring to..........

Reply by psychosid on November 16, 2011 at 12:18am

Have heard that their offer to the York Twp. group is in the low $4000's and 16-17% gross royalty....not too impressive.  They're pitching that southern Belmont County isn't worth as much because their speculation maps show this area as a 'dry gas' region.  Mark Leeds is currently leasing for Phillips/XTO for $5000 and 19% gross with some decent addendums.  I believe Lensman will lose quite a bit of acreage from their group is this is all true.  According to one group leader, Lensman is supposedly working a backdoor fee with the gas company leasing, which is exactly what they said they weren't going to do.  I'm not sure this is true due to the 'ethics' involved with lawyers......then again, they are lawyers, so who knows.  Their offers should be presented to the group later this week.

You have signed no secrecy clause, but you claim Company has 2 billion in assets, but you try and clean up your statement by saying they have shell companies........Who is it???????? And i copy and paste for those who change thier minds more than a politician in an electection year, and by the looks of the paragraph above, that would be you!!!!!!!! My point is this, we all have opinions and that is fine, but please don't act like the are the hard cold facts, they are not!!!!!!!!! You have changed your mind on here way to much to be considered an accurate source. You say ALOV changed thier mind, but you spouted them up until the truth came out. Again, we need to do our homework on this before we make such firm statements and you obviously did not, landowner groups are run by people who are here to make money on us, they are above noone. You should know that better than anyone now!!!!!!!!!!1HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by HMMMM! on December 13, 2011 at 5:33pm

You said right above this you reviewed the deal for family, now your saying it wasn't available....Which one is it Sid......You've flip-flopped again........You said the company has 2billion in assets..If you didn't see the lease how do you know the company......What are you saying,you read over the Lensman proposed lease and never saw the final copy(which means you don't know what was really signed)so all of this would be your opinion! Which is fine, but state it as that, not as gospel!!!!!!!!! I will let this go now because it is stupid to continue, all of the statements made on here in favor of the Lensman deal have asterisks and can only be backed up with"Oh we can't disclose that, but trust me, it's a great deal" What a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Figured you like my pasting so much i would put another one of your flip flops on here, herE is the first quote when you said you saw the deal

 

 

by psychosid 2 hours ago

Wow.  I was asking about an 'angle' because it sounds like you are more than just a landowner.  Are you a landowner in Ohio looking to lease your property?  ALOV misrepresented themselves on the phone a few weeks back to quite a few people when they stated that ANYONE in Belmont County would be accepted in their deal.  That came directly from Mr. Rea's mouth during a telephone conversation.  Their deal sounded great until the actual truth came out.  I received my information on the Lensman deal because I was asked to review the lease for my family's interests.

 

Now the second when you said it wasn't it wasn't available to you

 

by psychosid 28 minutes ago

Those were obviously rumors that were floating around before the actual deal was presented......and those rumors were started by a group leader mentioned quite often on this site.  As I've said before, I'm not in the Lensman Group, so the actual deal was not available.

 

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make up your mind  DID YOU READ IT OR DIDN'T YOU???????????????????????????HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Permalink Reply by time will tell on December 13, 2011 at 5:44pm

HUMMMM stop it --->   your killin me !

Someone call 911 :)

Permalink Reply by time will tell on December 12, 2011 at 4:09pm

This is interesting , I'f Lensman's deal is the bomb why not share it and bring in a lot more landowners ?

I meet with them and was less than impressed , when I asked them about everyones land  being included   meaning all landowners he said well that might not happen and could not promise that . That didn't work for me , to many loose ends .

My dealing with O-G companies is that they are all about themselves and to join forces with a law firm is in my opinion is not warm and fuzzy . I hope for your sake's I'm wrong .

A bit of advice if it's not to late have them change the arbitration clause that you have a option to a trial for breeches of your lease  .This will really help everyone if they have any problems . Trust me they hide behind the vail of arbitration because it keeps them out of the lime light and there is no punitive damages recovery  or recovery for legal fee's .

Don't let anyone tell you that you can't go up against the big boy's with the trial clause that is a bunch of BS .

I tell you all this to help you  . 

I found out the hard way -- the victim !

I am by the way not leased yet but am looking forward to . 

I wish everyone the best with there deal and a Merry Christmas .

Kool picture AT .

Permalink Reply by psychosid on December 12, 2011 at 5:07pm

I'll ask about the trial option.  Have you seen a single lease that didn't have the arbitration clause? 

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