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Permalink Reply by greg on May 29, 2012 at 7:11pm

I have appx 8 acres in washington cty. Triad sent me a letter asking to lease 5 yrs for $2,000 acre plus 15% royalty.

 

Does this amount seem about right? Noble cty is right down the road and I thought they paid $4,000 an acre.

Permalink Reply by 2wnbjkbqgwdf2 on May 30, 2012 at 9:56am

You only have 8 acres Greg. Tell them to make it a non-surface lease and move on with your life. What is an extra grand an acre if it takes you 1-2 years to get it? Pretty sure with 8your acres you don't need Dee and her landgroup she is pushing. Do a little research and you will be able to do this without them taking 4.5% and you are left with no negotiating rights.

Permalink Reply by Dee A on May 30, 2012 at 10:15am

I'm flattered you think it's "my" landgroup. However, I'm just another landowner. I don't think anyone should just jump on those leases being "pushed" by those companies. It's not good for them or for others negotiating for higher prices and real protections for their land, even if it is just 8 acres.

I could have signed years ago for a fraction, but a nice gentleman at the ODONR warned me back then to get an attorney to look at anything I was offered, but also to be patient and careful. I took his advice, I waited, then when I heard about the current action I made some calls and found SEOLA. I'm very, very thankful I was patient now.

I personally think SEOLA is the best group that I've seen. However, that doesn't mean other groups won't do really well too, or even just hiring an oil and gas knowledgeable lawyer. I personally feel that going alone and signing a standard O&G written lease is a really bad idea. Even with only 8 acres.

Not sure why you think it's 1-2 years longer to wait either, I'm expecting maybe 2-3 months. I'd wait a lot longer than that for another 8 thousand. No negotiating rights? You really need to do some reading on their site if you think you are giving up any kind of rights. You are gaining rights.

Permalink Reply by Dee A on May 30, 2012 at 4:59am

Greg, I personally wouldn't sign one of those company leases. They are designed for their benefit only and there are few if any landowner protections. And the amounts, although not bad, aren't good either. I think you could get more if you join a landowner's association or hire an attorney and ensure your rights and your land are protected. There is so much info on this site that can help. I strongly suggest you take your time, do some research here and on other sites and be very careful.  

Permalink Reply by Angela Smith on May 30, 2012 at 5:40am

Also, companies are taking advantage of the low lease activity due to depressed natural gas prices and floating out lowball offers.  Better to wait until gas prices increase.

Permalink Reply by greg on May 30, 2012 at 5:50am

what is a good/acceptable offer in Washington Cty?

Permalink Reply by Dee A on May 30, 2012 at 6:01am

There hasn't been enough action in the county to really say yet. I agree with Angela on waiting. Just don't sign anything without an attorney, you'll regret it later.  

Permalink Reply by Wayne Lockhart on July 8, 2012 at 1:50pm

Anything new here?

Permalink Reply by Dee A on July 9, 2012 at 10:56am

There are a few rumors around but nothing totally firm I believe. I'm hearing lease bonuses in Wash Co. for around 3k from a few sources. There are bits of other news you can see in the Washington Co., wall and forum. Sorry that's not much help. Nothing firm from SEOLA yet I believe.

Permalink Reply by Wayne Lockhart on August 1, 2012 at 12:34am

How about now? txs

Permalink Reply by Dee A on August 1, 2012 at 5:04am

Wayne, SEOLA closed another deal in southern Noble Co., not sure why they haven't updated their site with the info yet though so until they do I can't share specifics.

They also recently went from 4 companies looking at Washington Co. to 5. The last I hear is a big player, but that's based on rumors. I think adding another O&G company in the pot slowed them down a bit but I'm hoping it will pay off. I heard that Aug 1 (coincidentally today) was a hoped date for deals to present to the landowners, but that was before the newest Co. joined.

So, nothing firm still, but good things seem to be brewing.

 

Permalink Reply by DrillBABY on August 1, 2012 at 6:24am

Did you attend the meeting last night? I heard no mention of being anywhere close to a deal for Washington County.

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