WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO OIL PRICES WHEN ALL OUT WAR BREAKS OUT IN THE MID-EAST?

My guess is that oil prices will spike when the Arabs start attacking each others oil fields and shipping ports.... Then the U.S. will be exporting to Europe and other countries and will need to drill more and frac more... Any one else with ideas? 

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Joseph- you are right, we cannot trust the powers that be and their agenda, for it is antithetical to our Constitution, the Bill of Rights, our Judeo-Christian heritage and traditions. Hence the removal of close to 300 general officers by the Adm, DHS classifying patriots as potential terrorists, etc. Not that we are supporters or apologists for Putin or Beijing, but we are most definitely between a rock and a hard place.

Absolutely Mr. Pendergast. The dollar is still seen as a "safe haven" by much of the world, but that is changing. Bernanke/Yellen have monetized the debt in this massive Ponzi Scheme, kept interest rates at near zero for years, and the chickens will come home to roost eventually, as all fiat currencies die- not one ever lasted. China is trading with 28 countries in RNB now, and are dumping Treasuries- $100B just last week. They themselves are in dire straights with enormous debt like all the other countries, coupled with collapsing demand for their products as evidenced with the massive decline in the Baltic Dry Index. The East is wisely buying up gold and silver as the writing is on the wall re the dollar. They and the Russians have had it with the West, and are preparing for the inevitable. Saddam began to trade oil for gold, and we took him out. Gaddafi did the same- taken out. Mubarak and Assad- two other largely secular dictators that at least made some effort to protect religious minorities i.e. Christians, gone. I sense the agenda in the ME is a very sinister one.

Right on again RJ! Tell it like it really is.....

RJ/Lance: glad to see fellow bible believers on this site. Ezekiel 38 & 39 are chapters that have fallen into place only recently. So much has changed even among the "west leaning" governments of the Middle East. Our redemption draws near ...

Yes, thanks Darren! Those 'west leaning' Gov'ts. in the M.E. are using us. Look at all the military goods, (tanks and fighter jets) we gave to Egypt, all that should have went to Israel our best ally, surrounded by our enemies... Israel's  enemies are our enemies, Israel's fight should be our fight also...

'.......west leaning.......' (and only IMO) :

Those empowered (or struggling to become the empowered) in the ME, whether sprouting from some religious sect or of secular philosophy, obviously care nothing about the well being of their general public - but only empowerment / themselves. I believe that and selfish greed is their driver. If that's true (and I firmly believe that it is) they will lean in any direction to suit their own selfish, self-serving, greedy agenda. I would term all of that as criminal. If you strike a deal with criminals you are also worthy of being labeled a criminal yourself. That is also a treachery and masquerade as is theirs in the 1st place. More reasons for us to stay out of it until we or a true ally is directly drawn in / assaulted / attacked. If that happens - I think it would be 'on' - AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN.
From the looks of it to me this could be a never ending story.
Just guessing again above; and adding now that I've read that said by many before, from both secular and non-secular sources.

On that account guessing further, that may be the grand plan.

Secular empowered will never relent.

Non-secular empowered will never relent.

Any empowered will struggle to stay empowered and those not empowered will struggle to become empowered.

Maybe it all boils down to the human circumstance / 'life in the big city' insofar as the ME pressure cooker goes ?

Only way that I can see it stopping would be if secular destroys all non-secular factions or vice-versa ?

What are the chances of that happening ? ?

Very good chances of  that happening because it's prophesied to happen in the second coming of Christ, according to God's Word... I'm not sure what your secular and non-secular is but when Jesus comes back the war of Armageddon will destroy 1/3 of the earths population, I wonder who that will be? It will be those who go against His chosen people Israel. God will bless those who bless Israel and He will curse those who curse Israel. (Gen. 12:2-3) That promise is everlasting. History  proves it... So, I choose to stand with Israel and wait for the blessings..... I am blessed as we speak...:)

To me / what I meant using the terms secular and non-secular was / is as the words pertain to government / rule :

Secular government : Those governments that espouse the separation of church and state; and each citizen individual's right to choose their religion - any religion (or choose no religion at all), without persecution / prosecution by the state / government. This, to me, represents freedom of religion.

Non-secular government : Those governments that do not espouse the separation of church and state; but, instead espouse government by some single religion - any religion, that would / does persecute / prosecute any individual that does not follow the tenets of it's basis religion. This, to me, represents / amounts to religious oppression.

On a more personal note pertaining to any 'organized religion'; these days, I have great reservations. However, I do believe that I (personally) have found 'God' (hint: when it's said that 'God is everywhere', I truly believe it). A little further, I believe that we're basically / pretty much on the same page. Hoping 'God' thinks so too.

Completely agree. The Abraham covenant is everlasting. So the promise of blessings for those who bless Israel stand.

Also, the Battle prophesy in Ezekiel points out that God will put a hook in the jaw of Russia. Seems like it is a war Russia does not want to enter into, but feels it necessary to so. When considering who their nuclear, energy and military customers are, it seems oh so plausible that this war, and it's combatants are quickly aligning. 

Though no relative time table is given for this war, we know it has to be before Armageddon. I have read that some commentators speculate that this war, by the decimation of the Muslim epicenter and a major world power, will be the vacuum needed for this beast (a world leader of the Roman Empire Culture and/or geography) that ends up setting himself as God in the yet - to - be - built Jewish Temple.

We line in exciting times!

That's right Darren, we do live in exciting times... I will be 60 my next birthday and I have a feeling this war will start sometime in the near future. Not to talk about doom and gloom but we all need to prepare... The last of the 4 blood moons is this month and this is also the Shmita Year... Not sure how to spell that but it's a seven year cycle in the Jewish calendar that generally denotes something big happening to or for Israel and the world...  

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