Utica\Point Pleasant-are they one and the same?

at a recent odnr unitization hearing a neighbor attended, it was stated that the driller was going to be targeting the point pleasant formation in S\E Ohio. Not being familiar with point pleasant, I started doing some internet searching to bone up on it only to end up befuddled.

Are they two separate or just one and the same?

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Permalink Reply by Sage59 on September 7, 2016 at 9:44am

I believe you Snort, but as you know, the perception of possible damage can be stronger than fact.  Just a short story. In the early eighties a clinton well on a neighboring farm became unprofitable and was plugged. That day my perfectly good water well, a half mile away, filled up with gray muck and burned up the submersible pump. The well was useless, it never cleared. (I realize that it was different strata and formations.) The next day I contacted the company plugging the well. I was told that such a situation could not possibly happen. That day I talked to a lawyer who was a friend and he told me it would be cheaper to drill a new well than go after the company responsible. Absolutely true story, and it cost me several thousand dollars. Things like that make me a little touchy about what O&G companies tell me. I don't mean that as a disrespectful reply to your expert knowledge. I just wonder, as a layman, if the injection well experts can see every seam and fissure under the surface. I am hoping that you are right. The future of my family and every other family in these counties where frac water is being injected counts on them being honest and competent. I really would like to see our area developed, but not simply as a garbage dump. Only the injection well owners benefit then. Thanks again for your expertise.

Permalink Reply by Snort Widley on September 7, 2016 at 10:37am

I totally understand.  I have a 300 acre farm in Arkansas and know the value and expensive of water wells.  I'm not going to defend all the energy companies out there since there are several (like CHK) that I would never work for.  We do have to do our business right to protect the fresh water but I suspect some companies value the next quarters profits over doing what is right.  Drilling operations are designed to prevent what may have happened to your well but it was to be executed properly.

Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on September 9, 2016 at 6:47am

Waterless frac. fan chiming in here fellows.

CO2, Gas even Oil for frac. purposes seems to be the prudent thing to do.

The E & Ps need to get good and efficient at it as well so as to cheapen up the processes.

No waste is an extremely attractive alternative considering all of the drawbacks / hazards using H2O (which we've all read about). 

JMHOs

Permalink Reply by James Vanderink on September 9, 2016 at 9:48am
Joint Industry Partnership Formed to Study Cyclic Gas Injection in Utica-Point Pleasant Shale Region
The Utica-Point Pleasant shale source bed underlies much of the state of Ohio. However, large portions of the bed are considered uneconomical for production. A new Battelle-led Joint Industry Project (JIP) has been formed to determine whether cyclic gas injection can be used to stimulate production in liquid-rich regions of the Utica-Point Pleasant shale.

The JIP (Cyclic Gas Injection for Stimulating Oil Recovery in the Liquid-Rich Regions of the Utica-Point Pleasant Shale) was formed in the fall of 2015. Participating companies will share in the cost of research to evaluate the efficacy and costs of cyclic gas injection for this region.

The Utica-Point Pleasant shale play encompasses western Pennsylvania, western New York, eastern Ohio and most of West Virginia. The most recent U.S. Geological Survey study of the Utica-Point Pleasant, released in October 2012, estimates the amount of technically recoverable oil and gas reserves at 590 million to 1.39 billion barrels of oil, 21 trillion to 61 trillion cubic feet (Tcf) of natural gas, and 4 million to 16 million barrels of natural gas liquids. In western Pennsylvania and southeastern Ohio, the play consists primarily of mature source rock, rich in dry gases that respond well to established hydraulic fracturing methods. As developers move north and west, the source rocks are less mature and the product ranges from wet gas to heavier crude oil. The heavier, more liquid product is less responsive to hydraulic fracturing and does not produce economical amounts of oil following conventional completion methods.

The JIP was formed to evaluate whether alternative completion methods could be used to increase oil production and make the area economical for oil and gas development. A large portion of Ohio lies within this oil-rich leg of the Utica-Point Pleasant shale bed. Currently, it is not economical to produce with either conventional oil & gas drilling or completion methods such as hydraulic fracturing.

Immature liquid petroleum products are heavier and less movable than their lighter gas counterparts. Because the individual molecules are larger, they cannot move through small channels and impermeable, low porosity rocks as easily. While hydraulic fracturing with large volumes of water and sand works well to release dry and wet gases, the same technique does not work well with the liquid oil products that underlie most of Ohio.

In cyclic gas injection, a gas (which could be CO2 or even gas from engine or power plant exhaust) is injected into the shale. The addition of gas affects the viscosity and mobility of the oil in the formation in order to make the oil more mobile and easier to produce. The gas injection and soak cycle is repeated several times, with production taking place between injection cycles.

The study may also evaluate other methods of oil recovery from the liquid-rich shale.

Phase I, which began in November of 2015 and is expected to run through the summer of 2016, will consist of data gathering and analysis. Battelle will perform a complete reservoir characterization of the Utica-Point Pleasant shale play in Ohio and gather production and operational data from participating JIP members. The collected data will be used to develop recommendations and proposals for the field trials.

Phase II will consist of field testing of the recommended method(s) at a well operated by one of the participating partners. It is expected to begin in the summer of 2016 and will run for 12 to 18 months.

All JIP participants will have access to all of the data and analysis that comes out of this project. The end goal is to develop a set of recommendations and best practices for extracting petroleum from the oil-rich leg of the Utica-Point Pleasant shale play that runs from northeast Ohio down through central and southeastern Ohio. This could potentially open up hundreds of thousands of acres that are currently considered uneconomical in the Utica-Point Pleasant shale play.

Current JIP participants include Artex Oil Company, PDC Energy, Inc., NGO Development Corporation, Inc., Bakerwell, Inc. and Solid Rock Energy, Inc.

For more information on the JIP, interested parties should contact Dr. Srikanta Mishra, mishras@battelle.org, or Mark Moody, moodym@battelle.org.

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Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on September 9, 2016 at 10:47am

Excellent.

Your reply provides much needed and appreciated insight pertaining to the Utica / Point Pleasant and real world developmental endeavors.

Thank you for your very informative reply James Vanderink.

Giddyup JIP !

Good luck to all of us !

Permalink Reply by James Vanderink on September 9, 2016 at 2:15pm
You're very welcome. I wish I could provide more detail on this.
Permalink Reply by Des Wertheimer on October 4, 2016 at 12:45am
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Point Pleasant is part of what we call the Utica group in the Lower Devonian age group. It actually sits below the Utica. In Monroe county to the east, Eclipse is drilling the Point Pleaseant and using the Utica as a capping formation. This means, the upper formation has such low permeability that it is nearly impossible to extract hydrocarbons from. So it acts as a capping formation to keep the hydrocarbons in the point pleaseant from escaping by Franking out of zone, to bust through the Utica. Hope this helps. Send me your email and I can send you a formation chart that details all the formations and where the lay prospective to each other
Permalink Reply by Donald on October 4, 2016 at 6:09am

Hi

Can you send me the map you are referring to Thanks Don  

dailblad@aol.com

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