The areas that Devon has recently drilled in Ashland and Medina Counties, and now stating their results disappointing, were not those areas mapped as "immature" in the initial, if you will, ODNR mapping?

So, Devon is not really disappointed in their drilling so much as they are in taking the chance that maybe those ODNR maps may have been wrong?   Maybe they had their hopes a little too high?

I realize that's a very simple outlook, but could that be the crux of it?  Yes?  No?

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The ashland well makes 2 bbl/day of oil. Thats disappointing no matter the cost of the well

It's not porosity or permeability that hurt these wells, it's the lack of pressure in the structure.  No gas pushing the liquids means no liquids.  A CO2 injection would likely stimulate the wells enough to produce them, but that's a temporary fix.  

Well then why are they going to make the Harstine core well an injection well?

Because it's half drilled, so why not.  Taking a cored well and using it for injection has nothing to do with the ability of other wells to perform (or in this case not perform).  They are separate entities.  

Sorry for not understanding but if the core well was so good with good permeability and thickness why not produce it?  Thanks for responding.

A core can show you valuable things, like porosity, permeability and TOC.  What it cannot replicate is downhole pressure and the ability of said pressure to lift the liquids.  So all of the indicators from the core look good, but the pressure is what's keeping that oil right where it has always been.  You don't know how a well is going to respond until you drill it, frack it and put it into production.  

The fact that they're planning to use it as a SWIW tells me two things: 1.) they have waste water that they want to get rid of, possibly from their future ventures and 2.) the Sensibaugh well was not good, as it is considered an off-set of the Harstine core.

Well then answer #1 fits.  Eventually there are going to have to be a bunch of these SWIW throughout the play.

I had not heard that.  I think it would be too early to pull out entirely from a few steep declines.  People don't realize this but it takes many, many wells before a play can be accurately assessed, especially the decline.  I'll dig into it and see what I can find.

I'm puzzled by the activity of Knox and Oxford.  They can't possibly make any money drilling Clinton wells in this market.  Just drilling to HBP is difficult for even the most well-capitalized companies, and those players are not nearly big enough to waste the up front cash today.  So the answer to your question is "I have no bloody idea why they're doing that".  

Reading through this discussion, and being that I know very little about this industry, I am left with the impression that for the two areas drilled in Ashland and Medina Counties, which were labeled in the immature zone, that it's not so much that it's immature oil or that it's not there, it's the pressure issue in bringing it to the surface.

Could one assume that if the issue were maturity, the pressure comes as it matures?  Or, is that neither here nor there?

Even though I'm asking maturity questions, to reiterate - I'm concluding from y'all's thoughts that Devon likes the look of their find, but it's a major chore bringing it to the surface.

And thanks to everyone for puttin' you thoughts and knowledge out there for us!

The well summary card for this well has the Black River formation listed on top of the Utica Shale when it should be listed below the Trenton Limestone.  Is this just an error on the Well Summary card or did Devon not drill into the correct formation?  Other wells in Clear Creek Twp have the Black River below the Trenton.  What information was the rig operator using?

I noticed that too.  It must have been a typo.  The Black River underlies the Trenton, which is below the Utica/point Pleasant.

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