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Drilling Information Questions Answered

To all members that have questions about the drilling of the Marcellus feel free to ask. Please keep the questions to drilling and locations. I don't know about leases in different areas but I will try and answer all related questions about the actaul drilling operations

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Permalink Reply by Farmhouse on May 8, 2011 at 7:58am

Finnbear,

I've seen a plat plan map like mentioned above. Does the fact that these documents exist for a particular well give any indication that the well will in fact be drilled? Or is it just a necessary document as part of the permitting process?

 

In other words, as far as the intentions of the company are concerned, would the O&G company create the plat if their intention was to hold off on drilling the well. Or do they have to submit it regardless of their timeframe for drilling? Hope this question makes sense.  Thanks

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on May 8, 2011 at 1:16pm

The drilling permit is basically permission from the governing body (in OH = Dept. Natural Resources, in PA = Dept. Environmental Protection) to the O&G company to drill the well as proposed in the permit documents as submitted by the O&G company. I believe the permits are good for a specific length of time - you should ask PA DEP about that. Their contact info is below .

http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/oilgas/drivingdirect...

I know that PA law allows a driller to apply for a permit extension of 1 year if a permit expires and they still want to drill as originally proposed. If they decide to change the parameters for the well (ie, add a horizontal leg to a well that was permitted as a vertical), then they must re-apply with the governing body and get a new or amended permit for the new well proposal.

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on May 8, 2011 at 1:23pm
In Ohio, a permit is good for 24 months in a rural area and 12 months in an urban area so if one has been issued, there is a defined window in which the well should be drilled.
0jw0dsu4txfuvPermalink Reply by 0jw0dsu4txfuv on May 8, 2011 at 1:40pm
In most states it is 12 months.
0jw0dsu4txfuvPermalink Reply by 0jw0dsu4txfuv on May 8, 2011 at 8:55am

Sounds to me like what you are saying there have when times that landowners have been screwed. I'm sure it has happened and I truly feel for you are the people it has and will continue happening to. You people need someone to turn to when you leases are

nearing expiring. I will do this as a service to anyone. Contact me with your email and

I will contact you back.

Thanks

Homer

0l1a6laz7smpfPermalink Reply by 0l1a6laz7smpf on May 8, 2011 at 6:40am

BTW...Homer, I wasn't getting on your case about what you said....just explaining why some might feel that they were cheated from the very beginning even though when they received the first bonus money they felt very rich compared to the years on the farm without such an offer.

But much has happened to prove that they didn't know what the process would involve and the sacrifices of the land and people who owned the land would be...meanwhile the O & G companies knew and knew that they intended on doing well with this new found shale.  

And still some of the landowners are still ignorant of the future of this new found way to make money...

http://gomarcellusshale.com/forum/topics/assigns-clause-and-a-global

what I didn't know at the time that I started that discussion about the assigns clause is that some of the landowners may not get another up front bonus at the end of their primary lease cause there are clauses that protect the O & G company from having to pay the landowner again while they go and just keep selling partial interests of the lease for more than they paid the landowner.

 

This is not a 'Sears, if not satisfied within 30 days, your money back" kind of situation.

 

I highly recommend this gomarcellus site to those landowners who are still unawares of what really is happening on their lands with these leases.

0jw0dsu4txfuvPermalink Reply by 0jw0dsu4txfuv on May 8, 2011 at 9:03am

Like I said I will offer my services to anyone,

 

Permalink Reply by Doug Duffield on May 8, 2011 at 11:59pm
Homer, how long do they run the condensate heater treaters, or better at what % is the gas dry enough to not need them. Also how much of the royalty owners gas is used to "treat" the gas from the well head to the tiein with the main gathering line? This is assuming a 8mmcfd well or around that, thanks for all your info it really helps most understand the process, sadly some will never want to learn.
0jw0dsu4txfuvPermalink Reply by 0jw0dsu4txfuv on May 9, 2011 at 12:03am

Heater treaters don't use much gas but are very necessary to clean up the gas and get the oil right for sale to the refinery. This is not something you need to worry about. Your welcome for the info and I will do until someone gets the PA attitude on me then I will delete these post.

Gas pipelines want no mositure in them. This gas goes to the consumer.

0jw0dsu4txfuvPermalink Reply by 0jw0dsu4txfuv on May 9, 2011 at 12:07am

They may not be hiding anything. Take this in PA ! Not all land  will have gas production on it. As

more wells are drilled Operators can predict how the shale runs to maximize production. They

are not all out to screw landowners over.

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on May 9, 2011 at 12:44am
No pipeline = no way to market gas. Until pipeline is built there will be NO gas production from the well.
Permalink Reply by Kathleen Elsie Gibbs on May 9, 2011 at 12:54am
I will be very happy when the pipe lines are in and production is started from the wells. This will mean less activity and air pollution. Fewer trucks means better air quality.

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