Drilling Using NO WATER !!!

Why are we fighting the wrong battle? Instead of Fighting to Allow Hydrofracing using WATER, we could be pooling our resources to REQUIRE Hydrofracing to USE "Liquified Petroleum" ..

http://ww.gasfrac.com, a Toronto based firm, developed a technology 4 years ago to use essentially "Propane"  as the FRACING fluid..

1. NO Water exposure

2. NO Pollution

3. doubles production on all wells

4. NO cleanup after

5. Half the ware and tear on the roads

6. over 300 Wells currently in production out in the midwest

7. you undercut any arguement from environmental groups

 

Sadly, almost no one is talking about this

JM

 

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Permalink Reply by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on January 19, 2011 at 11:28am

I saw a news article out today that a couple guys from one of the universities (I'd have to go dig it up again) came up with a new proppant to use in frac fluid.

 

Don't think it was tapioca, but whatever it was is being tested and looked at for use. Luckily there are still plenty of people with a fire in the belly, using this issue to find new and better ways to safely drill and frac.

 

Thank God for that!  (YUM, tapioca frac fluid...I'd be over there with a spoon!)

Permalink Reply by William Ladd on January 19, 2011 at 1:20pm

This is the first I have read about using something besides water for fracking. Someone said that propane would be 60 percent more expensive to use it for fracking.  Glad to see that alternatives are available and in use. I have not yet read all the postings about it yet so I cant really give much of an opinion yet.

 

Bill L,

aka Bummy

Permalink Reply by mark ayers on January 21, 2011 at 6:20am

GASFRAC Energy Services Inc. (TSX VENTURE:GFS) ("GASFRAC") announces that it has completed the investigation of the incident described in its press release of January 16, 2011. The investigation was conducted by third party fire investigators working with GASFRAC personnel. The investigation concluded that a brief propane flash caused the ignition of lubricating fluids and tires on two fracturing pumpers. The isolation systems in place prevented any propane combustion beyond the initial brief flash. It was further determined that the cause of the leak was a premature mechanical failure of the low pressure side of the suction manifold of one of the quintiplex pumps. We have determined detailed corrective actions to prevent any recurrence and are in the process of implementing these actions and have targeted January 31, 2011 for recommencement of operations.
Permalink Reply by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on January 21, 2011 at 6:53am

Excellent!

Progress always includes problems and then solutions to the problems. I hope to see much more on this company and others.

Permalink Reply by Jean Michel LeTennier on January 27, 2011 at 5:51am

new document with reserve estimates and a clear explanation of the situation..

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0jw0dsu4txfuvPermalink Reply by 0jw0dsu4txfuv on January 27, 2011 at 6:58am

I just posted this in this group. It has been rolling around on MArcellus Shale Formation since Friday. I actually

talke to Gas Frac and there are a view particulars they are working out. Anyone interested can email me and I

will forward you their presentation paper to the Tyler Texas SPE.

jaycalk@yahoo.com

Permalink Reply by Jean Michel LeTennier on January 27, 2011 at 7:37am
yes, please send me their presentation paper  jm@onsglobal.com
0jw0dsu4txfuvPermalink Reply by 0jw0dsu4txfuv on January 27, 2011 at 8:56am
Send your request yo my email address and what phase of the Marcellus Play you are in
Permalink Reply by M. Sean Joyce on January 27, 2011 at 2:54pm

Actually this has been talked about.

GasFrac is mentioned as an alternative to water fracking in the New York draft GEIS.

I actually called and talked to Gasfrac about a year and a half ago.

From my discussion:

They need the infrastructure in place to produce the gelled propane that they use.

From what I understand it may not work on all formations.

The gentleman I talked to said they did a project in Texas where they borrowed the propane, fracked a well with it, recovered it 100% and gave it back to the company they borrowed it from. Pretty cool

The collection and separation of the propane and methane gas requires more equipment on the site.

The wells do produce better as there is no water left in the bore.

It is more expensive but if it became more widely used the price would go down.

Since most of the companies are invested in water fracking it may take a new company to come into an undeveloped area such as New York and drill and frack using this completely different method.

Envirofascists will say it is unsafe you can be sure.

Permalink Reply by Jean Michel LeTennier on January 27, 2011 at 4:35pm
I recently spoke with a spokesman, and my understanding is that they have simplified the infrastructure requirements.. they simply roll in Semis of Propane.. as opposed to piping it in earlier on..
Permalink Reply by M. Sean Joyce on January 28, 2011 at 2:05am

By infrastructure I meant large storage facilities and maybe a facility that creates the gelled propane.

I am not sure if pressurized propane is the same as the gelled.

In the heart of the Marcellus region where I reside the propane facilities would be quickly overwhelmed.

Trucking all that propane would present a problem but i would venture that not as much of a problem as trucking water.

There again the envirofascists would not like the idea of propane trucks.

How about fracking with concentrated sound waves?

(or play concentrated Heavy Metal down into the bore) Ha Ha

 

Permalink Reply by Jean Michel LeTennier on January 28, 2011 at 10:07am
whatever works ;-)

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