Electric bill going up despite sitting on shale plays

I don't understand....how do you sit on top of two of the largest gas and oil deposits in the world and they raise the rate for electric. One would think that customers in wv oh and pa would at least benifit by lower utility bills Or at least stay the same, but raise it.

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Permalink Reply by Tim Tarr on June 7, 2015 at 3:37am
It's called "a war on coal". Even if the gas was $2/Dtm. It still costs millions to build a gas fired power plant plus pipelines to get gas there.
Permalink Reply by james david lamm on June 7, 2015 at 6:43am

Tim, I agree. Its amazing how the last 6 1/2 years has killed king coal. I do not know if it will ever come back again. the jobs lost in this industry are astounding. shame on the local miners unions for pushing members to vote for this administration.

Permalink Reply by Tim Tarr on June 7, 2015 at 4:44pm
James,
Not just pushing them to vote for but using those Union Dues to support this administration.Quite like forced suicide.
Permalink Reply by james david lamm on June 7, 2015 at 8:52pm

 Tim

I have relatives in wv that worked in coal mines. they are all laid off scratching around trying to make ends meet. I feel sorry for them. maybe they need to build some GREEN windmills. what a joke.

Permalink Reply by bo boboski on June 7, 2015 at 5:43am

We may have to switch to propane fridge,furnace,dryer,hot water heaters,lightsLOL

Permalink Reply by Dan on June 7, 2015 at 9:57am
The question should be why are the NG utilities asking for large rate increases?
Permalink Reply by lance on June 7, 2015 at 2:18pm

I am getting ready to convert to natural/propane gas for heat... My winter time electric bill is over 600.00... And I live alone. I keep heat on 65* only use hot water once or twice a day and do laundry twice a month. Propane is cheaper than electric for heat now than what it was 5 years ago..... Piss on A.E.P. and Obama's war on coal! LOL 

Permalink Reply by Tim Tarr on June 7, 2015 at 4:37pm
I'm trying to scheme me a private gas well. Than I'll buy a fuel cell and use "waste" heat for hot water.
0ym9x5ag7ury2Permalink Reply by 0ym9x5ag7ury2 on June 9, 2015 at 12:18pm

Jason,

     I worked for the big electric company that powers OH, PA, and now WV.

The ceo was so very greedy, telling us in meetings how there was 35% more money he wanted to get out of Ohio customers.

He went from a 2.5 Million per year salary to $14 Million in one year. A pay raise of close to a 600%. 

We suffered Downsizing 3 times that went towards more take home for the ceo and his "Team".

Corporations have Leadership Teams now to spread out the unethical method of doing business so the ceo doesn't take the heat for all of his bright money making (theft) ideas.

After we get the O&G companies operating within state & federal laws, we will have to focus on downsizing pay to corporation ceo's so the money that is being horded now can pay for employees to help relieve the overworked employees that remain after all the greedy downsizing. We might even have another "middle class" if we get the ceo take home pay under control. Not to mention that box of cookies you like that keeps getting smaller, might stabilize at the same size and price for a few years.

I noticed that the managers promoted after several downsizings typically have Anger Management Issues that can be focused on the employees to increase production. Before I downsized the greedy ceo, working at this corporation reminded me of how  Henry Ford hired Thugs in the early 1900s to rough up the employees in order to keep the assembly lines running smoothly, as well as prevent unionization.

Wow, that all sounds so negative!

The truth isn't always Rosie kids, that's why they call it the TRUTH.

Permalink Reply by jason irvine on June 9, 2015 at 2:11pm
Good response ron. I get so upset when I read a article in the newspaper saying that our electric and gas bills will have a increader and the article right next to it talks about how marcellus and utica are effecting the commodity prices in the entire world. We have a glut of resources under our feet and our utility bills go up.

How can you sell the idea of drilling to the normal person living in pa, wv, or oh when the rents has increased everywere. The roads are getting torn up with the increase in traffic and heavy equipment and you can't even tell them that they will pay less in gas....it will be more. How???????? We're does it seem right that we are taking resources from the trip state...can't ship it overseas to sell it for a higher price. have to choke it back because the price is to.low and raise our utility bills. Something just doesn't seem.right. Also.kill.all the good coal.jobs. someone.please tell me were we benifit from.all.of this....I'm missing it somewere
Permalink Reply by lance on June 10, 2015 at 7:35am

Its called greed my friends.... The current administration in Washington is intent on weakening us at home and abroad. Our enemies don't fear us as the super power that we are and our allies and friends don't trust us because we don't keep our word. We let our enemies cross the "red line" with out consequences and kowtow to those intent on our destruction, ( ISIS, Iran and N. Korea), among others. We could put the Saudi's out of business now or greatly diminish their wealth with our own oil and gas if we could export it to Europe. We still buy from Venezuela, a country whose government  hates us. Obama's policies on coal is why our electric bill increase's which leaves us less money to realize our dreams and be more financially secure. They don't want us to be self sufficient they want us dependent on the government so they can control everything we do.... The signs of the times point to something 'big' getting ready to happen in the Mid- East that will affect the whole world and I don't believe there's anyway to prevent it. As long as our Government kisses the ass of Islam we will be under this threat...   

Permalink Reply by Bill Bergseid on June 11, 2015 at 9:54am

You can thank your state legislators and the federal administration.  Ohio, WV and PA all have laws that require electric generation to come at least 12.5% from certain renewable sources-primarily solar and wind, even though that energy is considerably more costly than from traditional sources like coal or gas.  It is only going to get worse.  These standards are usually required to increase over the next 10 years.  Electricity costs in mandate states are 40% higher than states without them. For example, Calilfornia has one of the highest renewable percentage standards.  Electricity there is 2-3 times the cost paid by users in a state like Wyoming with no renewable requirement.  See this

http://instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/IE...

We are probably saved for the present from having Congress mandate this for all states.  Colorado Senator Udall (defeated in the last election) had introduced a bill to require all states to produce at least 20% from these more expensive sources.  Bur groups like the Environmental Defense Council continue to push of national renewable requirements.

Add to this the president's promise to put the coal fired power plants out of business and it is easy to see that electricity costs are not going down or even staying level.  The new EPA standards for power plants (existing and new) almost guaranty that new coal plants will not be built and existing ones will be shut down. 

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