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Permalink Reply by TM on August 7, 2013 at 11:14am

Here is another good article

http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/Kinder+Morgan+MarkWest+Ut...

Permalink Reply by Denver Gallentine on August 7, 2013 at 1:28pm

TM,
I have read the articles and attempted to go on line to find the location of this 220 acre site. Do you know where, in Tuscarawas County, it is located?
I have heard something was being done on Kimble land in the Sugarcreek area, but that does not seem to be close enough to Carroll and Stark. Thanks for the articles. - Denver

Permalink Reply by TM on August 7, 2013 at 2:27pm

The plant will be on blizzard ridge rd outside of urichsville about 1 mile south of Newport. I believe it is rush township as well. With this plant coming in 2014 I would hope drilling will increase now in the county.

Permalink Reply by Denver Gallentine on August 8, 2013 at 1:16am

Thanks TM. I hope it increases throughout the area too. -Denver

Permalink Reply by Paul Martinelli on August 8, 2013 at 1:23am

TM.....Thank you   for bring these news items to light for us forgotton landowners   ( not for long)  in Tusc. county.

 

If the plant is to be operational in a little over a year.....pipelines and pads should start to show up soon too.

Permalink Reply by TM on August 8, 2013 at 5:51am

Add the leesville plant to the mix as well. The leesville plant will be very close to this one. The leesville plant will be on 8349 azalea rd west of leesville. That plant will be part of the utica east Ohio buckeye complex by M3 midstream, Access midstream, and Enervest Energy Partners. These plants will only be about 13 miles from each other.

Permalink Reply by al raptoria on August 8, 2013 at 4:47am

I understand how excited you can be over this news....not so much for us out here in the country, 2 miles from this new monstrosity. Imagine what it would be like to never again see all the stars at night you've grown up watching, because the lights from this "plant" now keep the sky lit...and the songs of birds you welcome are either obscured,  or simply gone. In your gungho over money, please remember there is more to Life, and that for every dollar you are getting, somebody, some life somewhere, has been forcibly changed so you could have that.  "So move" is the  callous response we often hear. And when there are no safe, quiet places left...then what,  then where?? We ALL live downstream Neighbor. We want/need money too - but at what "cost.?"

 

Permalink Reply by Paul Martinelli on August 8, 2013 at 5:47am

I hear what you are saying......but unless we all agree to go back to riding horses and living in log cabins.......the industrialization and exporation of the Earth's resources is gonna keep going.

Resources have to come from some place, generation of power has to happen somplace......

 

We all made this bed....and have to live with it.

 

I feel your pain though.....but not sure what can be done at this point to put the "genie back in the bottle"

 

We all just have to make the best of the situation.

Permalink Reply by al raptoria on August 8, 2013 at 6:24am

Thanks Paul. We do live in a cabin, and neighbors (Amish) use horses...but I have no intention of "going back in time" - I just wish we'd get far enough ahead in time - with safe energy that leaves fossil fuels in the ground.  If ALL the thousands of wells are drilled ,just what will the inside of the Earth look like? I suspect our grand children will abandon the area out of "sinkhole" fears or worse, that is, if the water pollution or scarcity hasn't scared them away first. The best we've been able to do to date  is hold out for a non-surface lease with environmental provisions AND plan to  set aside part of that income to fund a watch-dog entity to help us protect the area from environmental tragedies. That's the least we can do!

We've yet to see ANY lease that makes provisions to replace tainted water to those other inhabitants of "our" land - the wildlife! Ruin "our" water and I'm sorry, but a big plastic tank for our family use just doesn't cut it.  We SHARE this land with thousands of life forms and it sure would get lonely fast if they were to all die off or depart newly toxic land. "Rock and hard place"...which I guess is better than a hole in the ground and no water.  Wish we could all see 50 or 100 years ahead before we make decisions that affect those future generations....I know one thing, learned from the short-sightedness of earlier generations who signed away all their rights  basically forever- we are only leasing non-surface rights to the Utica and Marcellus shales - NOTHING above, NOTHING below!  We KNOW technology will continue to come up with new ways to exploit every part of the earth; there's no reason to  grant carte blanche rights to corporations whose only interest is in making money off the land anyway they can, just not in their own backyard, where THEIR families live!

Permalink Reply by Paul Martinelli on August 8, 2013 at 6:36am

I agree with you.....I'm a huge fan of wildlife and habitat management myself.

 

The old leases were signed with no inclination that this type of technology would be used.

I'm just glad they aren't looking to do more strip coal mining..........

Permalink Reply by al raptoria on August 8, 2013 at 6:45am

...ah. strip mining...that's what our other neighbors are doing right now! TWO of them...one a small operation next door and another has TWO huge projects on Blizzard Ridge - one right next to the new plant  that started this thread.

Permalink Reply by Paul Martinelli on August 8, 2013 at 6:48am

All I can say is Sorry.

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