MARCELLUS SHALE PROTEST SLATED FOR TOMORROW AT SOUTHPOINTE, APRIL 19 @3:30.

Be prepared for a Marcellus Shale protest in Southpointe. Looks like many outsiders & organized labor unions. I have attached the announcement for your review.
Garrett S Hoge RFC, CFP, MS

http://www.marcellusprotest.org/node/987

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Permalink Reply by Dave on April 18, 2011 at 2:05pm
They probably would'nt be protesting if they owned acerage up here
Permalink Reply by Terry W. on April 18, 2011 at 2:43pm
Took the words out of my mouth!!
Permalink Reply by David Mohn on April 28, 2011 at 9:56am
I wonder how many of those people that protested enjoy pay 4.15 per gal for gas right now.  I don't know too many people that are happy about it but there seems to be allot of people wanting to stop us from finding our own oil?  The Utica might be full of oil and the last I looked on my property it wasn't bubbling up from  the gound.  I guess that means we might have to drill down to get it.  I am tired of everytime someone in the opec nations gets mad, we pay the price.  I am all for natural gas vehicle and electric produced from gas but in the mean time, lets get our own oil and be less dependant on foreign oil  Just my opinion but I am sick and tired of people telling me what I can and can not do with my land.  I made the investment in my land and if I want to sell my mineral rights, then that is my decision.  If you don't want me to sell my rights, then make me an offer to buy my land that I can't refuse.  Again, just my opinion. 
Permalink Reply by Keith Mauck (Site Publisher) on April 19, 2011 at 1:58am
Can someone explain to me why unions are against drilling... I assume because the workers are non-union?
Permalink Reply by Brian on April 19, 2011 at 5:17am
Thats what my assumption is.  Or maybe just because they are not using local union workers.
Permalink Reply by Carol on April 19, 2011 at 8:56am
I was tempted to stay at work and watch this protest but I decided to get out while I could - I work right across from Range's building.  I think the unions will protest whatever they can in hopes of gaining members.  I'm expecting increased union activity in an attempt to get workers in the industry to unionize but I don't think that will be successful for them. 
Permalink Reply by Gary Ball on April 27, 2011 at 12:32pm
I guess if the unions are involved, atleast the local people would have a better chance of jobs, instead of bringing there own labor from texas, and across the boarder. Considering the local steel mills have shut down, and employment is dismal
Permalink Reply by Gary Ball on April 27, 2011 at 5:19pm
I think you have been reading is all the negative remarks made towards unions, I work as a union carpenter out of the steubenville ohio area, When a job comes up for bid you have union and non union contractors bidding for the job, when the job is awarded to the lowest bid to do the job, how can you stay union workers are overpayed and no work ethics, maybe the nonunion contractor owners would rather be putting the money in there pockets instead of looking out for the good will of there workers. Id love to make the arrangements for you to be able and put on a tool pouch and work one week and see how your opinion is when it comes to union workers in the field. How you checked the unemployment levels across the nation, Im sure the ones that are out of a job and there house is being foreclosed on doesnt want to work theres plenty of american workers that would love to have a job.
Permalink Reply by Gary Ball on April 27, 2011 at 11:52pm
The union members that are layed off are the ones standing around with picketing signs, if you are out of work , you can be asked to form a picket line. As far as your work experience as a home contractor, do they want 50-60 year old workers framing when they can have a 20 year old instead that will work for 8- $12.00, no health benefits, no retirement. If you are living on min. wage how far does that pay check go, do you think you are going to have the best work ethics ?
Permalink Reply by Carol on April 28, 2011 at 1:12am

Paul,

I agree with you.  This industry would never survive with union workers - this industry requires extensive overtime due to the nature of the work and that would not go over well with the unions.  And, I'm sure the unions would overvalue the jobs and expect $30/hr for jobs that are worth $12/hr.

 

Carol

Permalink Reply by Gary Ball on April 28, 2011 at 1:37pm
Evidently this is a anti -union forum, so I guess I had better move on, but some of the miss leading information is unbelievable. First thing is I have never had a paid vacation, nor do I receive sick leave, paid holidays. I am payed for the hours I work. Id like to know how a person could could afford a house on 12.00 per hour job, support a family, no medical insurance, but than you might qualify for welfare so I guess that would help out. Paul if the union workers have all the benefits like you describe, why didnt you join the union? I have been a member for 27 years, we offer a 4 year apprenticeship, to train our workers, union carpenters have much more knowledge in the building trades, we have had been called out to fix the mistakes nonunion contractors have created. You mention the age group, 40/60 year olds, maybe the young people have better senses to work under the conditions, the 40-60 year olds have no other options, no retirement, nothing but social security when they reach 65, say what you want for this is my last reply and last forum
Permalink Reply by craig on April 28, 2011 at 10:18am

Local Unions have nothing to do with a 'better chance of jobs' in the Pa. drilling industry. I just found out that a local 20 something fellow just got hired by Patterson for a rig crew job. He has no drilling experience, but doesn't mind hard work. He starts out making $24/hr, not bad with no union involved.

This young man told me the jobs are there, and a number of the locals applying either aren't physically fit enough or can't pass a drug test.

The sticking point with unions would show up as......having to work 13 hour days, 15 days straight. You would never ever be able to afford what the union folks would want, IF they would even agree to work that long, consistently. I can't imagine what that labor contract would look like.

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