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Permalink Reply by Mickgyver on October 2, 2011 at 4:58pm

If you stand behind what you said then you should encourage people to stay in the group and get out and get involved and inform the older people  what is truly going on . I believe you will find most of those over 70 just want to make the best deal for their families , they are not overly concerned with a large windfall as much as they are to be patient and hold out to pass on something really good for their families , At least that is how my father and several older friends feel , when you reach that age you have a totally different sense of values than when you were young . As far as the money everyone here should be ecstatic to see the landowners get the most that they can get upfront including the royalty because this actual drilling will take a long time for the amount of acres that are here . In addition why would you feel a 25% royalty is absurd for the landowners but it would be fine for the oil companies to make the most out of the deal. Just look at how good the lease bacame when the companies got into a struggle just to be able to control the texas acres .These landowners including myself have helped to fund the schools and the taxes have helped to allow the college students to have money available for the grants that kept them from paying even longer than a lot of them do which I am sure you will agree unless you were fortunate to have enough handed to you to avoid loans and grants that a lot of us had to endure for college. When it comes to the landowners and what they get , can you think of anyone else that deserves to get a share of where the oil and gas comes from . If you are truly interested in the Smith Goshen group contact them and don't waste your time promoting the lawyer group , Good luck

Permalink Reply by Mickgyver on October 2, 2011 at 5:38pm

Hello just to clarify that last comment to Psychosid,  I meant for you to encourage the people to stay in the Smith Goshen Group and not try to attract them to another , since im on the subject Psycho when you contact our Smith Goshen group bring those 4000 acres with you and their owners along . Tell them slow down and be patient . It may just mean instead of a yugo this Christmas maybe next year it will be a Cadillac Eldorado with a chauffeur and even a few years later the addendums may even allow you to still grow a nice garden

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on October 3, 2011 at 8:28am

Q) How do you know Smith-Goshen isn't getting any offers that please them?

A) You don't - and if you were participating in S-G you would know that they have not ended their proposal period because of the interest in the group from numerous players.

Permalink Reply by Mickgyver on October 3, 2011 at 10:46am

Psychosid , I am also a betting man and I bet you are one of the main committee persons promoting the La group you have bragged about ,

But I could be mistaken . But I know I have wasted too much time with this subject. I don't find any further need to defend our Smith Goshen Group , Obviously there is some sneaky intervention to try to find reasons to lure people away from the group , especially with all of the comments to slam our group . Any group that charges the higher fees does not have the future of the landowners at heart as much as ours do . They have donated so much of their life to this project it is hard to fathom how hard it has been for them to be away from their families so much knowing they are not getting a windfall profit at the end . The people have maintained their strength this far and the company posts just ensure that they won't go away anytime soon. And the worst case scenario is that the landowners that hold out will just get a larger signing bonus and the drilling time will be much quicker , or they will be force pooled and only get the royalties ,and after the equipment is paid for they will become a partner in the actual drilling unit . Nuff said have a good life . See you at the meeting maybe Finnbear

Permalink Reply by psychosid on October 3, 2011 at 12:10pm

Where did Finnbear's message go where he was calling me out?  The only reason I posted the group's disappointment from the lack of good offers is because Finnbear questioned the "supposed admission" about not getting any offers by the group's deadline.  How do you delete a post?

 

And McGyver, you know what they say about opinions?  I'm in no way associated with the LA Group and have tried to keep people from leaving another group.  I guess after reading some of my posts you could assume that I was recommending this new group.  It wasn't my intention.  It is just odd that this website is supposed to be for anyone and yet it seems that the Smith-Goshen is the only group worth anything.  I wasn't attacking the Smith-Goshen, I only mentioned the mass email AFTER  I WAS QUESTIONED.  Has the Smith-Goshen gotten a decent offer with their lease?

Permalink Reply by Mickgyver on October 3, 2011 at 3:58pm

yes

 

 

 

The main revolt is that this is our county and if someone here is taking the initiative to do what is right ,we surely don't need outside intervention just to male a fast buck . And I will ignore the comment until a future date when I am in a more childish mood

 

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Finnbear on October 3, 2011 at 1:36pm

psychosid

There is WAY more to the story than the misinformation you posted here. If you read that email in its entirety you would know the reasons for the proposal period not ending. The changing landscape in the oil and gas industry with respect to companies S-G was in negotiations with necessitated an extension of the proposal period. The group has always said that after ALL bids were received, they would be evaluated and the best offers would be put to the membership for approval. They have said all along that they would not release the results of any of the bids until all were in.

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on October 3, 2011 at 3:08pm

I did not state that there wasn't an email. I did not call you a liar. The full email would only serve to show that there is much more to the story than you presented and you are correct, it should not be posted here. You chose to only say that we  were "disappointed that our proposal period did not get the results we tried to get." This is one line from an update which was taken out of context and posted here without the benefit of the accompanying previous and later updates that members were privy to.

Permalink Reply by time will tell on October 3, 2011 at 12:09pm

Finnbear check your email .

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on October 2, 2011 at 4:59pm

Belmont doesn't need more than one group. It needs more patient landowners to join together in one landowner non-profit and then stick together until a good lease is achieved. But there also are lots of attorneys and landmen who are seeing $$$$$ and can't pass up the chance to snag some for themselves.

Permalink Reply by Mickgyver on October 2, 2011 at 5:07pm

Amen , I don't want to be rude  but I cant keep quiet when another group is being promoted for a get rich deal of no value to us who will live with the outcome longer than some realize

Permalink Reply by time will tell on October 3, 2011 at 1:11am

please keep us posted Mickqwer .

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