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I have heard that the Keystone is wonderful and awful. I understand the Construction phase would create about 4,000 jobs, and the long term operation about 35 jobs. If you don't consider the arguments of tar sand oil and the impact of building any pipeline, why is this project so important that it dominates the national dialog?
Yes and No. Yes, it has to be diluted, but no, it is not for USA use. It is stated in the Keystone Pipeline application, that the oil will be sent from Canada, through the USA, to Texas to be refined, and then shipped overseas. None stays here. It is already contracted to be sold overseas.
Yes, it is complicated. This is the work of one company and they have stirred up a hornets nest.
State Dept study says as much as half of the oil will be used in the US. If you look at the map at the Keystone website you will see that one leg to be built runs to Illinois.
Further, this is a heavy crude the kind that Gulf refiners get from Venezuela and Mexico , which are both in serious decline. This would be a great back supply for the US.
Yes and No. Yes, it has to be diluted, but no, it is not for USA use. It is stated in the Keystone Pipeline application, that the oil will be sent from Canada, through the USA, to Texas to be refined, and then shipped overseas. None stays here. It is already contracted to be sold overseas.
Yes, it is complicated. This is the work of one company and they have stirred up a hornets nest.
Even if all refined products are exported, Who works in those refineries? who works on maintenance of those refineries? Who loads those refined products on the ships.Who works on those ships?... Than who works where those people now spend that money.
35 permanent jobs my arse!! Just more lies from a list that is getting as large as the Library of Congress.
Problem is those jobs are just in States that vote "Wrong". Also pay too much so they don't need "assistance". No votes in that.
How can 35 people maintain and operate a pipeline that is a couple thousand miles long? Compressors, pig stations, maintaining the ROW, inspections, and more.
"If you don't consider the arguments of tar sand oil and the impact of building any pipeline, why is this project so important that it dominates the national dialog?"
Because without the Keystone XL line TransCanada won't build the Bakken Marketlink line, thus condemning crude from the Williston Basin to transport by rail.
Dexter, taking transport off the railway seems relevant and positive, given the two recent events (Conspiracy Theorists are probably having fun with that). Jim/Tim: if 35 long term jobs seems low, what is a credible number? Even at double or triple that, still does not seem sufficient for national concern. AT&T is hiring for 120 new Ohio jobs, no national discussion there. Also, given the current over supply, storage capacity approaching full conditions (2/3 full now?) and depressed market, it does not seem those refinery workers are going to run out of product anytime soon. As a land owner under lease, my business interest suggest I only want supply to come from my interests, and I only want pipelines that transport my product to market. Aside from the railway safety issue, I am not hearing a strong case for that, but it is not crossing my state or property, so I defer to those who are more directly affected, such as the IL and WV residents recently inconvenienced.
Regarding diluents, it was my understanding if there were co-mingled product from United States, that would make the Canadian oil not eligible for export. I am in Northeastern Noble County. I was sort of hoping to stay away from who is for it and who is against it, but just discuss the issue on its merits.
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