Road Conditions

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2011/feb/27/natural-gas-industry...

 

This article brings to light some discussions I've had with my spouse lately. The roads in Tioga Co. are a mess. I'm wondering if the NG industry and side contractors are being held responsible for some of the road conditions are is the county having a cash flow from these companies to repair these roads. It seems any profit from the NG industry might go back into repairs to many enviromentally damaged areas.

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Permalink Reply by Robin Jackson on February 27, 2011 at 5:38pm
Correction on the above post from me. I'm wondering if the NG industry and side contractors are being held responsible for some of the road conditions. Is our county recieving a cash flow from these companies to repair these roads? It seems any profit from the NG industry might go back into repairs to many enviromentally damaged areas.
Permalink Reply by Carol on March 3, 2011 at 9:41am
In Southwestern PA, the roads are a mess during the construction and drilling phases but then the gas companies return the roads to previous condition or better.  Better condition in most cases.  I'm willing to deal with the torn up roads on a temporary basis.  We never had good roads anyway.
Chip NorthrupPermalink Reply by Chip Northrup on March 4, 2011 at 11:03am

Road use ordinances that address this are common in other states. And are allowed under NYS law.  At the county, town, village, city level. If your county/town does not have such ordinances, its road will be ruined by frack truck convoys. And there is no legal way for the town to recover damages - without an ordinance. Be safe, get a road use ordinance in place before the damage is done. 

 

http://my.brainshark.com/Frack-Trucks-Convoys-142091865

Permalink Reply by craig on March 4, 2011 at 12:20pm

The OP (original Poster) stated that this is in Pa. Please keep the topic of the post in mind and not hijack it with NY stuff. What you keep posting (bogus pictures that aren't claimed as photoshopped images but are not real images for sure) may be the way it is/was in other areas in the past , but I haven't seen ONE, somewhat recent, REAL picture the represents anything close to what you represent. Nor have I personally witnessed anything close. I will keep you updated with REAL information on roads in Western Pa as our first rig in the area is being setup right now. Our township core sampled all of our country roads for the express purpose of CHK being able to determine what condition or better they all need to be returned to. The twp was told by CHK that they would contract someone for the road work, or the twp could do it themselves and bill CHK. Either things have changed dramatically from what you describe, or they were never that bad to start with. I'll guess the latter, at least in Pa.

 

 

Permalink Reply by Mike Knapp on March 4, 2011 at 12:30pm

That's the worst photoshop I've ever seen.  ROFL. 



Permalink Reply by Tom Copley on March 4, 2011 at 4:45pm
When the trucks float like that it reduces wear and tear on the rural roads. (oops, sorry for positive spin) ;-)
Permalink Reply by Chuck Reed on March 9, 2011 at 7:49am
I don't think that was photo shop. I think it was some fool who found an old light table and an exacto knife.  I wonder if they also have a typewritter.   oooh sorry, showing my years in the news business.
Permalink Reply by Kathleen Elsie Gibbs on April 29, 2011 at 6:36pm
Love the flying trucks. No need to photoshop. We had a backup last year while the trucks idled in front of our house for two hours. Six tankers, two pipe carriers, a work hut and a big  grader. Some went into the ditch. We were in luck school was out so no bus. The garbage man did not make it that week but that is not unusual here.
Permalink Reply by Thomas Wentzler on March 8, 2011 at 12:01pm
Are these all roads or just the dirt roads?
Permalink Reply by Robin Fehrenbach Scala on March 8, 2011 at 1:47pm

People who actually LIVE in Pennsylvania have noticed that, in general, the roads are fixed and in better condition AFTER use by the gas companies and their subcontractors. As many people have already stated, the roads in PA suck anyway and they always have.

Of course, we will have actual data (and ACTUAL photos) rather than some imaginary hype.

Permalink Reply by Chuck Reed on March 9, 2011 at 7:50am
what, with all the tax money they take from CDL drivers? why are the roads so bad.... I know! let's tax then industry and take that money.... FF 1 year..  let's take that tax money to save the wooley spiders.
Permalink Reply by Chuck Reed on March 9, 2011 at 7:47am
Roads have also been better than ever.  I would give the name of the contractor for all to call, but I'm sure you can understand why that would not right.  Local contractors have been paid very high wages to rebuild roads that were otherwise never going to be fixed.  One I know personaly was told, "fix this road and send me the bill".  Thinking like a tioga county person, he worked within a small budget.  The pounding on the road wrecked it yet again and the energy company called once more.  They said, "Maybe you don't understand....  SEND ME THE BILL".   The road was a back road with only 4 homes on it.  No complaints had been made. The locals were getting a well and didn't care if they had to be choppered into their farms.   But the road had to be fixed and East was cutting the check.  So the road was redone.  Redone in March, 4 feed of poor road was cut away and R4's were rolled into place. Drilling Man Owner, James Asbury was the one running the Sheeps Foot roller. The roads rebuilt have never been better.  we have new bridges and new pavement in places that would not get it otherwise.  Also, God Bless the road masters in small towns.  These men take the job no one wants.  They have little money to work with and even if they had all the money in the world, they still deal with weather and do not have the man power, or skilled workers to repair every back road.  So the inudustry, with it's gifts of gravel and deep pockets have been better than most understand.

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