Fairly near Neighbors in southern Tuscarawas County (a couple miles from Harrison and Guernsey Counties) were turned down by McClendon and another Big Guy Company this past week, both for the same reason: You are just a little west of the wet gas window and are viewed as "oil only." So, tell me, when did oil become less valuable than wet gas? Aren't we going to be flooded with all that gas soon, lowering its value even further? What should I advise my elderly neighbors to do - they were looking for a lease or sale of % of their mineral interests in over 100 acre unleased farm...telling gramma and granpa to "sit tight" for a couple more decades seems cruel - but is it realistic? Will oil be of value here again? Or are the investors clamoring for fast gas riches first then come back and go for the oil? Plus, anybody know if it's light oil, thick stuff or do we have to wait and see?
Where's Ron D Jockefeller posting when we need him? Any other professional opinions out there? Thanks for all opinions!
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No one has figured out how to drill the oil window, that's the problem. So far nobody wants to throw money down the tubes like Devon did. The few wells that have been drill in Tusc have been lackluster at best, hopefully someone can figure it out
Devon didn't throw money away. Devon drilled some bad wells, took a loss in the first quarter of 2013 and then repatriated two billions dollars from off shore at a lower tax rate. There's profit in drilling bad wells. In my speculative opinion.
Devon threw money away, it just wasn't theirs.
Hi Chris, several times a week I get Stock bulletins pitching new and improved and cheap and environmentally sound ways to drill, to access deep oil, etc...could be pitching pipedreams or maybe it really is just a matter of time. It makes sense that after throwing money at mineral rights owners a few years ago - all my neighbors for instance, and they are in that "oil only" area, that now the gas/oil companies need a quick fix, or at least the fastest way to recoup some of their money and volatile gas windows with little refining needed may get them their juice back, placate their shareholders, and raise more investment money for coming back and going after the oil. Oil still trades at over $100 while gas is around $3.63! AND we are headed for a glut of that...so tell me somebody please - why is oil devalued and wet gas hyped? Can't help but think it has to do with speed and ease and that the best waits for last.
Talkin' to me? Got no idea who or what yer talkin' about - but will look up a "Jerry: in Members...just in case....
Thanks...
....back again...we have 10 Jerrys as members...so I will await further details from any of them who care to comment.
al,
While it may seem counter-intuitive, well production from the wet gas areas is more economic. IPs, overall production rates and production declines are all better in the wet gas areas. Physically, the combination creates a 'more energetic' reservoir system.
Thanks Craig, makes cents...and dollars too!
But how does ANYONE know EXACTLY where these areas are BEFORE drilling, and even after drilling if, according to member Ron D Jockefeller on another thread, "Light oil is worth more than wet gas. And a barrel of light oil is worth more than a barrel of NGLs. Also, since the US is going to be producing way too much NGLs for the petrochem industry for the next 12 to 18 months, NGL prices are going to be well below their historical correlation to Brent or WTI for a while Black v. Light v. Volatile are terms that have to do with the composition of oil. In general the longer the hydrocarbon chains the heavier the oil. Light oil without sulfur (aka sweet) is generally worth more since it produces higher value end products when refined. Oddly, the
US refiners are mostly set up for intermediate and heavier crudes now
because that's what they expected their feedstocks to be... but now with all
this light stuff coming in we might see relatively lower price for light. Good time to be a refiner.I agree it's too early to come up with a sweet spot. The producers haven't even figured out how long to rest their wells after fracking. For the light oil zone maybe it's 60 days, maybe 120, maybe somewhere in between. We'll know in another 6 months or so."
Of course, that was posted more than 6 months ago...so how much more do we REALLY know??? Seems we all now know more about the different companies' activities, skills and ethics than we know about the actual gas/oil production and potential! (And what's a Brent or and WTI?) (Can't tell if I'm stupid or just tuckered out from the fracking fray...)
It's not the price, it's the pressure and rate. The oil window is updip/more shallow then wet gas, thus you have less pressure support. Compounding the issue, oil is a heavier molecule and larger so it doesn't travel as quickly or efficiently as methane (ethane, pentane, pick your gas hydrocarbon).
It's pricey stuff if you can get it out of the ground, but it is much more challenging.
Hope that helps some.
Cheers,
-AreaMan
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