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Permalink Reply by David Good on September 23, 2011 at 11:24am

We am currently working with Harry Klodowski of Hull and Klodowski, LLC.  Office is in Wexford, North Hills of Pittsburgh. 724-940-4000.  He will negotiate the lease if needed but usually works with you on the details and gives advice.  You do the negotiation.

Permalink Reply by randall gottus on September 26, 2011 at 2:10pm

Dave...Ron Coyer in Slippery Rock or Tom May in the city of Butler....both are Oil and Gas Attorneys , and have lots of EXPERIENCE  working with the landowers and their leases.

Permalink Reply by Craig Becker on September 27, 2011 at 5:21am

Randy, do you have any contact info for Ron or Tom?

 

Craig

Permalink Reply by randall gottus on September 29, 2011 at 12:13pm

Craig, ...Ron Coyer @ 724 794 2929 or Tom May@ 724 282 3141.

Permalink Reply by Dave Benson on September 27, 2011 at 7:58am

Thanks Randy.

Permalink Reply by 1feawc4f7m9v7 on September 27, 2011 at 5:12am

Dave, I work for a company that negotiates gas leases everyday. We are really good at getting gas leases that protect the landowner. If you need help with your lease give me a call at 724-359-5035. ask for John

Permalink Reply by Dave Benson on September 27, 2011 at 7:58am

Thanks John.

Permalink Reply by Johhny Jacobs on October 5, 2011 at 7:31am

John, how do you stand to gain from your 'charity', percentage of royalty? percentage of upfront bonus? tell them this 'group' you have is the best? Groups = Biggest O&G scam ever! Explain to me how packaging your property with other landowners far removed from you is of benefit? Because there is greater bargaining power? Sure, for the people standing to profit from a lump acreage sale to the highest per acre bidder. Meanwhile, Joe Smo, who's land is surrounded by Exxon just got his shit sold to Chevron because they were the highest bidder and now never has a chance to see his gas get produced, until his lease expires (ten years down the road, when the per acre bonus is $1000, reference Haynes), or they flip it to the producer in the area (who has no incentive to buy it, since Pa has no forced pooling, and they can draw the unit around you). Further, lease Addendum's constructed to suit the needs of the individual mineral owner is obviously more logical than a blanket Addendum for all members of a group. Carry on cutting your own throats with groups, or get informed, get a lawyer (who is in reality working in your best interests), get the deal done. (Example: The guy who suggested Dillion, McCandless, King, etc. etc., he's a 'group' recruiter. Typical scenario, find a guy trusted in the community, connected to school boards, etc....let the deception begin!)

Permalink Reply by Gasman on October 5, 2011 at 9:52am

Johhny,  how is it that you misspelled you own name?

 

I also find it interesting that the things you have said are almost a direct quote of what a Shell landmen said to me.......hmmmm.....coincidence?  I think not!

 

  Unfortunately I am not in a landowner group, (would love to be but I am just outside their area) but this gives me the impression that Shell is feeling a little pressure from the landowner groups that are doing the RIGHT thing for the landowner....... forcing the gas companies to up the offer. 

How do you fight those that are doing the right thing?  Well, some would try and trash them with inaccurate information of course.....throw as much BS out there as you can.  The more of it I see the more it shows me why landowner groups are the way to go!

Permalink Reply by Johhny Jacobs on October 6, 2011 at 5:18am

Dear Gasman (only funny if in reference to Dumb&Dumber)

That's actually the name on my birth certificate, so to be fair, my mother misspelled my name. Close, but not quite, I actually work predominately on the downstream side of things, and Shells 'desperation' is not of paramount concern to me.
I guess the 'right thing' is a matter of perspective, not a word I wrote was disingenuous/BS, and it should be the 'party platform' for O&G agents you encounter, regardless of employer, because it's accurate.
Let me know if I can help get you involved in a group. I hear the ABC group is a good one, they might not be as geographically picky.

P.S. If the gas companies were offering $5000 an acre, you'd want $6000, true?

Permalink Reply by 1feawc4f7m9v7 on October 6, 2011 at 5:53am

Johhny, I never said anything about land groups we deal with individual landowners. The only groups we do are the ones that are formed between neighbors and ask us to help them. Our company was formed by landowners who like everybody else signed bad leases when all of this first started, and with countless of hours of work found away to get out of their old lease and get a better lease with a higher signing bonus, higher royalty, and more protection. We are just here to help out landowners, we're not looking to make millions of dollars off people like some companies. We want to educate landowners and protect them not steal from them. So before you start bashing a company maybe you should do some research on them to see what they are about.

Permalink Reply by Johhny Jacobs on October 6, 2011 at 6:44am

I wasn't aware of a 'non-profit' group aiding landowners. You are the Gandhi of O&G. HOLD THE PRESS...just did your suggested research. 1st Chaz obviously didn't go to MIT. It's also very curious the most developed aspect of the website is where you offer to buy individuals mineral rights...another gracious service not designed to make money? Please.  My favorite by far is: 

What They Don’t Want You to Know
The Marcellus Shale Formation and Utica Shale Formation is the second largest Natural Gas deposit in the world. Only second behind the formation located in Iran. Together they just may be the largest, only time will tell.

Yeah, got em! Highly guarded secret! You might want to call the AP.

Your company was formed by people that knew little about oil and gas, signed lousy contracts, got out of them, and now you are authorities on all aspects of the industry? Next!

I understand your response was necessary for brand management/marketing purposes, but, please, sell that joke to another clown.

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