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Permalink Reply by craig on August 2, 2012 at 12:38pm

ECM,

You would do better getting responses from the Ohioville area by posting this in the Beaver County discussion area here on GMS.

Select PA under Find A State, then Beaver County. 

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Permalink Reply by ECM on August 2, 2012 at 4:28pm

Thank you

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Permalink Reply by 015334grltd9m on August 2, 2012 at 1:29pm

Very interesting, are you leased already?

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Permalink Reply by craig on August 2, 2012 at 1:58pm

MarkWest has been in contact with lots of folks in our area trying to figure out a ROW for a 36" line. They talked to those leased with CHK and to those that are not leased, ie my neighbor.

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Permalink Reply by ECM on August 2, 2012 at 4:23pm

It seems that what they are asking me to sign is for eternity.  I do not see any restrictions as far as time goes and it looks as though they could sell that permission to survey to whoever they wish.

Are you folks putting a time restriction on the survey permission?  What are the restrictions that you see the landowner should insist upon.  The Right of Way I saw is making statements such as "no reasonable access shall be withheld.  Also with the right, at any time, to replace the pipelines with the same or other size pipe and/or install multiple pipelines within the same right of way.  further it states "right of way and easement herein granted shall consist of a strip of land One Hundred feet in width preconstruction"...It refers to other times the right of way and easement being 75 feet in width.  further it states pipes shall be burried, except for valves, meters or other appurtenance...It took me forever to decide to sign with with CHK...I am on only 8+ acres and do

not want to ruin the property value of my home????? Thanks for any input or advice

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Permalink Reply by 2s72s0k9mm8gd on August 3, 2012 at 11:58am

They are doing more than just talking to folks in my area. (Southern Lawrence County PA) ROW agreements are being signed.

I was told 8-10" line initially , with a second soon to follow. Something to do with connecting Vanport with Butler and we are likely to see activity in as little as 2 months. They want it done by the end of 2013. Rep sounded pretty sure it will be a GO! Hopefully things are beginning to happen infrastructure wise. Something tells me Shell's Cracker is really going to happen in Vanport. Interesting times we live in!

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Permalink Reply by ECM on August 2, 2012 at 4:27pm

Yes, I am leased...since I only have 8+ acres, I feel it would have been better if I had gone

with none disturb....we are at an age when we are thinking of downsizing and selling our home.

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Permalink Reply by Jack Straw on August 2, 2012 at 4:35pm

FWIW, Markwest is one of the larger Midstream MLPs.

This is their website:  http://www.markwest.com/

The important thing to remember is that pipelines are forever.

 

JS

 

 

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Permalink Reply by 015334grltd9m on August 3, 2012 at 1:06am

I know some landowners in PA negotiated royalties for these private trasportation pipelines.  It would be interesting to see if negotiations for royalties take place when upstream companies already have leased on acreage.  A better position is if the acreage has not yet been leased to the upstream companies and now a midstream entity needs the parcel for its ROW.

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