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Permalink Reply by Mike Murphy on September 24, 2013 at 2:16pm

JUST AN OLD OIL WELL PUMPER PIPE STEAMER FROM THE CLINTON FORMATION HAYDAY ......THAT HAS LAND LEASES IN CARROLL COUNTY AND MARSHALL COUNTY WV........I WAS INVOLVED SOME IN COMPLETIONS AND ALOT IN PRODUCTION OF WELLS .....I SEEN WHAT PROBLEMS ACCURED WITH ANGLE DRILLED WELLS ......SO I KNOW A PUMPJACK CANNOT WORK ON A HORIZONAL WELL IF IT WOULD THEY BE DRILLING THE HELL OUT OF STARK TUSC AND WESTERN CARROLL RIGHT NOW A PUMP ON THE END OF A STRING OF RODS DOES NOT PULL THE OIL TO IT IT ONLY ELEVATES THE FLUID THAT IS AROUND IT ....AND ANY ANGLE ON THE WELL WOULD CAUSE THE RODS TO RUB ON THE PIPE ITHEY ARE INSIDE AND CAUSE THEM TO BRAKE IN TWO .....SO IF U PEOPLE THINK UR SEEING PUMP JACKS ON HORIZONAL WELLS UR WRONG 

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on September 26, 2013 at 1:13am

Mike,

You need to get out a little more often and read more. There are now a number of Utica wells in OH using pumpjacks. These particular wells do not develop enough lift to push the thicker oil constituents up and out of the well so artificial lift is required. They have been named here already. It is common knowledge and has been for a year or so. You can look up the wells named and the specs and location for them and drive out and look at them if you'd like.

And turn off your CAPS lock when you type. When replying on the internet, using all CAPS means you are yelling/screaming the response.

Permalink Reply by James D Troyer on September 24, 2013 at 1:01pm

Great share TM

This will be a better blog with less contention of Knowledge and more sharing in our education, as this industry grows here in Ohio  

The older I get the less I think I know.....

it is hard believing everything we read,

out here .....in in the wild wild WEB

Permalink Reply by James D Troyer on September 24, 2013 at 3:55pm

    Hey Thanks Mike, 

No disrespect intended, I just wanted to hear why you know what you know...  Much respect sir, now knowing of your extensive hands on experience

the only thing I know about pumping is to pump people for information, 

have been told I sometimes am not a good communicator, and have trouble saying what I mean

 the horizontal lines from those well heads I see must be the proposed well..maybe the need to show for permitting...???

(they sure confuse me)

I appreciate  what people like yourself share when they qualify their knowledge as you have done 

could it be that, the little bit of well pressure brings the oil up enough that the pumps are assisting down the vertical shaft  without going to the bottom ?

Permalink Reply by TM on September 30, 2013 at 1:52pm

just like most of the shale plays, within the Utica there’s essentially a dry gas window, a wet gas window, and then an oil window. In the case of the Utica you actually have a couple different views on the oil window. One is really kind of a volatile oil, kind of a 50-degree API oil; and the other is a heavier oil, kind of in the 40-degree range.

So far it’s been determined that the heavy oil or the black oil area is really not commercial at least today

One of the areas of interest is really the volatile oil window that’s shown in blue. While there have been a lot of wells drilled in the wet gas window there’s only been about say ten wells drilled in the volatile oil window. Well, if you look at the chart on the right, EVEP has about 50,000 acres in the wet gas window – well, we’re actively marketing those because it’s been determined to be a market.

Now, the volatile oil window is about 80,000 acres of EVEP’s acreage and it fits in with about 300,000 of overall EnerVest acreage. Well right now the best we can tell, and again, we have about 600 wells that we’ve cored and logged and evaluated, the oil in place in the volatile oil window is about 16 million barrels per section and that compares pretty well to some of the stuff Whiting was talking about in some of their plays. The challenge is getting it out.

And so right now what we’re doing is again, as we market the wet gas window acreage we’re simultaneously pursuing joint venture opportunities with both service companies and production companies to really de-risk the oil play. We feel like we’ll get more value for our oil window acreage that way and so we’re setting upon that, and we’re having good encouragement early on from several companies in terms of participating in that. And we hope to get something done kind of over the winter. Our target is maybe by the end of the year but it may lapse a little bit into next year. But again, we feel like de-risking this play will set aside a whole other side of upside for us.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1721882-ev-energy-partners-ceo-pres...

Permalink Reply by James D Troyer on September 24, 2013 at 11:48am

Mike have you visited the 2 wells ? Go see them for yourself.

Permalink Reply by Mike Murphy on September 24, 2013 at 1:03pm

TAKE A PICTURE AND GET THE WELL NAME OF THESE WELL U SEE WITH PUMPJACKS ....BEAT THEY ARE ROSERUN AND DRILL A FEW YEARS BACK NOT NEW UTICAS GET THE WELL NUMBER AND LOOK THEM UP ON ODNR WELL LIST 

IF THEY ARE UTICAS THEN THEY ARE VERTICAL WELLS 

Permalink Reply by James D Troyer on September 24, 2013 at 1:20pm

No need for me to document this for you. Our whole community has kept up as these wells as they went in (recently)...and seen the permits , the pumps. the maps.......and the maps show them to be Horizontal wells.

 I see your profile as a land owner ( which you may be, as many people are) 

Your constant capitol letters tell me your trying to impress us with your authority of subject matter,leading me to think you are not just a land owner. Share with us your qualification to speak with such Authority. What is your back round how do you come to think you know all that !

Permalink Reply by James D Troyer on September 24, 2013 at 1:22pm

   Do any of us really know who the people are that we are sharing info with  .. ?

Permalink Reply by ML on September 24, 2013 at 2:21pm

James,

The pump jack and tanks near the Mizer pad is probably for an old well called "Windsor #1".  It is a Clinton drilled in 1972.  There has not been a well drilled on the current Mizer pad. 

There seems to be some confusion about the other Mizer proposed pad.  It has not been constructed yet and its location (according to ODNR maps) is 4,500 feet SW of the current pad.

As far as the pump jack discussion, yes there are pump jacks being used on the horizontal wells recently drilled in Tuscarawas County.  I understand there is concern about friction between the rod and tubing.  Maybe these are just strait pump jacks that do not turn into the horizontal portion?  It is very easy to learn about this with a quick search on GMS or elsewhere.

Permalink Reply by James D Troyer on September 23, 2013 at 4:15pm

search this source to see 2 Mizer wells,

http://www2.dnr.state.oh.us/website/dog/oilgasviewer/index.html

Permalink Reply by James D Troyer on September 23, 2013 at 5:16pm

  I stand corrected after a second look at the map Thanks ML

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