Just wondering...horizontal clinton?

Hello,

Forgive my ignorance, most of you on this site appear to be well informed (ha! no pun intended) and I have a question that may seem obvious to y'all, which is...

Can a vertical Clinton well, or any currently producing vertical well, be turned into a horizontal well without having to re-negotiate with the mineral owner(s)?  I'm guessing that in doing so any mineral owners affected and not under lease would be approached for leasing, but would those already under lease be able to re-negotiate because the nature of the well has changed?

And, now that I'm asking, what is the overall likely hood of a vertical well being re-visited as a horizontal well?

Sorry if this has been discussed previously and I missed it.

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Permalink Reply by Dexter Green on July 22, 2014 at 5:56am

"Can a vertical Clinton well, or any currently producing vertical well, be turned into a horizontal well without having to re-negotiate with the mineral owner(s)?"

Yes, if the leasehold is large enough to accommodate the additional size needed.

"And, now that I'm asking, what is the overall likely hood of a vertical well being re-visited as a horizontal well?"

Roughly the same likelihood as the Jews and the Palestinians becoming best friends and going on a joint vacation to Disney's California Adventure. 

Permalink Reply by mbc on July 22, 2014 at 8:06am

Ah.  So the likelihood is possible in the coming new and improved millennium, minus the Disney stuff, of course.

 

 

Permalink Reply by James Vanderink on July 22, 2014 at 5:56am
mbc, not sure on the leasing side, but Anadarko/NGO is currently drilling a horizontal Clinton well through and existing borehole in Coshocton County. In this case NGO has the entire acreage (700-800aces if my memory is correct) held by many Clinton wells. I hope this helps.
Mike MurphyPermalink Reply by Mike Murphy on July 22, 2014 at 6:31am

 I dont think that reworking a vertical into a horizontal would be economical for producers .....seems it be cheaper to drill a completely new hole ....and it would not take in 700-800 acres ....somewhere around 70 to 100 acres is all that would be involved in a well depending on the length of the lateral IMHO enervest is drilling several horizontal wells in northern carroll and eastern stark county and none of them are bigger then 110 acres ....as far as lease it all would depend on the wording in the lease .....most leases do not specify vertical or horizontal ...most were written before horizontal was put into practice...... all enervest wells are new wells non are reworked verticals ......I dout they are reworking a vertical in coshocton .....may be drilling on the same pad but a new well ....would like for James to show prove that they are using the same borehole as a vertical well  to to expensive and the original 40 acres would not totally  be involved in the new horizontal...when u turn left the acreage on the right is not part of the well    

Permalink Reply by James Vanderink on July 22, 2014 at 7:21am
Mike, do you something the ODNR and I don't?

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Permalink Reply by Dexter Green on July 22, 2014 at 7:38am

That's such a bad idea.  What cheap b@stards NGO are.  The notion that someone else's production hole is not without some unknown flaw is where environmental mistakes happen. 

Permalink Reply by James Vanderink on July 22, 2014 at 7:54am
Good point Dexter.
Mike MurphyPermalink Reply by Mike Murphy on July 22, 2014 at 11:46am

So that request was made  back in 2013 over a year ago   has it ever approved and i agree with Dexter ....they could ruin all the other wells they drill past and turn them into salt water wells  

Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 22, 2014 at 1:18pm

Wouldn't it stink if that was the plan ?a

What remedy would be available to economically injured landowners ?

None ?

Permalink Reply by James Vanderink on July 22, 2014 at 1:50pm
Mike, I assume it was because the well has been drilled. Reports are 90bbl/day. I guess that's not bad. Really not that good considering the ROI. Thoughts?
Permalink Reply by Joseph-Ohio on July 22, 2014 at 2:04pm
Wondering if there were any nearby / adjacent wells adversely affected ?
Mike MurphyPermalink Reply by Mike Murphy on July 22, 2014 at 5:08pm

i know of a 20 acre well drilled in carroll county in the mid 70s  in the center of 4 40 acre wells that had what they called  a super frack put on jt and the well to the east of it flowed 200 bbl a day for 6 weeks ......and that well was 5 years old and is still producing 30 years later......back when oil was 4.69 a barrell  and gasoline was 25 cents a gallon

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