air emission issue's

I'm reading information regarding former epa employees stating that they hid information regarding dangers. What toxins would be put in the air from drilling? Anyone know.

I'm for drilling and always have been the one thing that would kill all of this success is problems with hidden information. Once the public becomes distrustful it's all over.

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Permalink Reply by Barry D on October 22, 2014 at 3:14am

The short answer to this is that it is not true. There has never been any corroborating info.

This mainly comes from an employee in Colorado who was not involved in any of the studies, and did not have access to to the supporting documentation. And his info is all third hand. You know "I heard..." "Someone told me.." etc. The person has no first hand knowledge or info to support his claims.

On the other hand, several air quality studies have been performed in TX by health authorities and others. In general the findings are that oil and gas development does not contribute to a significant deterioration of air quality and certainly does not pose a health problem.

Permalink Reply by Dan on October 22, 2014 at 3:36am

Proposed large containment ponds next to towns in the Eagle Ford will most likely open up the can of worms of air quality again.  We are almost surrounded by working rigs now and barley notice them other than the light at nite, but I wouldn't want a long term pond concentrating the waste thru dehydration in my back yard any more than I would want a coal ash pond next door.  I would rather pay a nickle more at the pumps and have the flow-back dealt with in a bit cleaner way. 

Permalink Reply by Philip Brutz on October 22, 2014 at 5:43am

Is this the article that you are referring to?

http://www.timesreporter.com/article/20141012/NEWS/141019810

 

  • Researchers find chemicals in the air in rural Carroll County

  • Researchers compiled results from Carroll County air-quality tests and found 32 of the 62 measurable PAHs present in the air samples.

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  • TimesReporter.com / Jim Cummings |
     
    Kathryn King (with her turkey Kojak) raises rare heritage turkeys, which retain historic characteristics that are no longer present in the majority of the birds raised today, at her 3-acre property in rural Loudon Township in southern Carroll County.
  • Jon Baker 
    TimesReporter.com staff writer 
    Posted Oct. 13, 2014 @ 6:00 am 

    For more than 30 years, Kathryn King has enjoyed living on her 3-acre property in rural Loudon Township in southern Carroll County.
    “When you opened the door, you would have pleasant odors like flowers and fresh air,” she said.
    Five years ago, she began raising turkeys at her home, including rare heritage turkeys, which retain historic characteristics that are no longer present in the majority of turkeys raised today.
    Recently, King began noticing a strong chemical smell in the air, especially in the morning. “It’s a strong smell,” she said. “Sometimes it burns my sinuses and my throat.”
    She attributes it to development of the Utica shale play in Carroll County.
    Four natural-gas wells have been drilled near her home in the past year or so — two northeast of her home toward Kilgore; one about one and a half miles to the south toward Jewett and one to the west toward Perrysville.
    In addition, a natural-gas compression station has been built just north of her home on state Route 164.
    In December, King learned from a neighbor that researchers from the University of Cincinnati and Oregon State University would be conducting an air-quality study in Carroll County. She contacted the University of Cincinnati, and members of the research project installed monitors on her property in February.
    King was one of 23 property owners in the county who had passive air samplers on their property. After three weeks, the samples were returned to Oregon State University to be analyzed.
    According to researchers, the air-sampling material used can collect thousands of different chemicals, including semivolatile organic compounds that can have an impact on human health. The chemicals include polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, which may be related to drilling activities.
    PAHs are a group of more than 100 chemicals that are formed during the incomplete burning of coal, oil and gas, and garbage, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. PAHs are “reasonably anticipated” to cause cancer in humans.
    Researchers compiled the results from Carroll County and found 32 of the 62 measurable PAHs present in the air samples. The level of PAHs then was compared to a 1997 study that looked at 20 PAHs in downtown Chicago and South Haven, Michigan.
    The study found that Carroll County levels for the 20 PAHs were on average higher than in Chicago or rural Michigan. Also, the average level of those PAHs was highest when the Carroll County sampler was located within 0.1 mile of an active well, researchers said.
    King got her results in June.
    She didn’t feel relieved. “It was more a feeling of confirmation,” she said. “At least now I know what’s going on.”



Read more: http://www.timesreporter.com/article/20141012/News/141019810#ixzz3G...

Permalink Reply by craig on October 22, 2014 at 7:13am

After reading this I have a question:

Just how does this prove anything.... It doesn't.  There are no baseline studies to compare it to in her area.... so they compared it to Chicago and Michigan????For all we know those results could be the same as they were decades ago in her area. Also, consider this:  she has no wells or compressor stations to the West from which the wind blows most days.I'd be looking west for a problem if she has one instead of pinning this on the convenient gas industry.

Just sounds like more grabbing for straws, any straw will do.

Permalink Reply by jason irvine on October 22, 2014 at 6:30am
I still don't understand how drilling under the ground puts that much chemicals in the air.
Permalink Reply by jason irvine on October 22, 2014 at 6:31am
Are there equipment different then everyday vehicle emmisions. How does the chemicals get airbourne from. Drilling
Permalink Reply by craig on October 22, 2014 at 7:14am

I'll agree, there should be NO more containment ponds. There are NONE in our area. They have the ability to eliminate them.

Permalink Reply by Dan on October 22, 2014 at 2:01pm
I think the concentrations left after evaporation have much more long term issues. It just keeps getting thicker with heavy metals and other nasty stuff until a good flood dilutes it down the water shed.

After decades of coal power there is more coal ash sitting on the ground in western PA then anywhere else in the world. A chunk of coal is harmless but when millions of tons are burnt the metals and some toxins and radiation are concentrated in the ash. Don't get me wrong I am a member of "Freinds of Coal"

We need to harvest and use our energy responsibly with concern how the waste can and will effect us now but also in the future. Long term containment ponds are the cheap way to go today but not over time, there are currently better ways.
Permalink Reply by Dan on October 22, 2014 at 2:55pm
Agreed but we are dealing with unlined pounds today from the past. I think most people are fine with a temporary pond while activity is present, but long term ponds are a different animal. If a large enough bond was in place to cover later clean up or bankruptcy better safer methods which are being used already would probably be cheaper anyway.
Permalink Reply by Philip Brutz on October 23, 2014 at 12:17am

Is there a limit on how long they can keep a containment pond on your property?  

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