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Permalink Reply by Coffeeguyzz on September 17, 2016 at 2:53pm

Roadbuilder

Thanks for the heads up. Very early stages of this play, but the involved companies are spending some serious money.

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Permalink Reply by 0ym9x5ag7ury2 on September 18, 2016 at 3:14am

Roadbuilder,

     The money will get more serious and will be spent on the right people & cities just after production starts. This will allow the producers to violate Kentucky laws while the elected officials claim their hands are tied if they acknowledge the theft at all.

I wonder if Bible johnny of Ohio is preaching about the evils of money in his Bible Study Group. He should know first hand how powerful the evils of money are, he has yet to mention the multi Billion dollar theft from Our State. Maybe he's hoping to get out of the town before the Citizens find out. That isn't going to happen with Trump in the White House, he won't take in any peddlers.

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Permalink Reply by 0ym9x5ag7ury2 on September 18, 2016 at 3:04am

Judging from the comments following the news article, the Citizens of Kentucky aren't as ignorant as their elected officials, NARO, and oil & gas companies thought they would be.

They already know who is going to get rich. The Coal Companies and small gas operators must have already visited and taken what they wanted without the locals benefiting.

By the way, the Rogersville Shale extends across WV, so why did the O&G companies start in Kentucky. I figure the folks of WV would be waiting for them having been short changed in royalties in the Northern Counties, plus I've heard Charleston WV gave Chesapeake the cold shoulder when they tried to move in to WV in past years.

I own land across the River from this area of Kentucky and have been getting my $80 to $300 per acre lease bonus offers since 2012. One Kitchen Table Company sent me a nasty letter when I didn't respond to his request, as if I have a responsibility to acknowledge any time a non-drilling so called company sends me an offer. Knowing these non-drillers are collecting leases in order to sell to a driller as they do in every shale play state doesn't do much to earn my trust. Oh, that's so negative, but so true.  

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Permalink Reply by Jackie on September 18, 2016 at 2:08pm

Hi Ron,  I  am just wondering why you listed NARO with elected officials and O&G companies?

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Permalink Reply by Mike Murphy on September 18, 2016 at 11:13pm

"A Rogersville well in your area would cost more than $10 million to drill," Wilson said................so they are going to drill one well OH BOY

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Permalink Reply by Nancy Mosley on September 19, 2016 at 3:14pm

Agree with Jackie's question.

NARO is for the royalty owner.

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Permalink Reply by 0ym9x5ag7ury2 on September 20, 2016 at 3:33am

Our Ohio Rep who you know is a true politician.

He owns wells in Ohio that are being stolen from but remains silent.

He owns 4% of all of the ALOV leases with Chesapeake so he shares the money being stolen by Chesapeake from Ohio Landowners.

He allowed the Arbitration Clause in our leases knowing Chesapeake would insist on One On One Arbitration.

He represents Ohio as the lead NARO Representative.

He is a true politician.

He charged me $35 to look at my first Division Order back when I was young and impressionable. I would be ashamed of myself for charging anyone for a 3 minutes math exercise. But I'm not a politician, they have to make their money where they can.

NARO spokesperson Dick Wilson said today that Lawrence County will benefit from severance taxes and jobs, although not as many as the coal industry provided. Mineral owners of course will be the biggest winners. Much of the mineral rights have already been purchased.

Tell me Dick Wilson is unaware that the landowners will be getting what Landowners across the US have gotten. Maybe he is in another NARO Group that doesn't discuss the truth. His statement is misleading to all Kentucky Landowners. ANOTHER POLITICIAN.

He could have said "Of Course the Domestic Producers will be the Real Winners", but that is the truth, something politicians are short on when discussing O&G.

Need I say more?

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Permalink Reply by 0ym9x5ag7ury2 on September 20, 2016 at 3:08pm

From the silence I figure Youins over in PA might not have known about your Ohio Rep partnering with Chesapeake.

Go to the Carroll County on line Records, do a search for Chesapeake Energy. It won't be long before you find the Contract that Chesapeake has on the ALOV landowners. The Contract breaks down the percent of ownership by each company or group. Your fellow NARO Rep is there.

I figure a nice Civil Organizations like NARO wouldn't have conflict of interest rules that could limit your brightest leaders from playing both sides, like politicians or lawyers have been known to do to their constituents/clients.

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Permalink Reply by Daryl Brown on September 21, 2016 at 5:08am

Thanks for the article Roadbuilder.  Everyone seems anxious to learn more about this new play and hopefully for all involved there is a discovery that is economically sufficient to warrant development.  I recently had an opportunity to speak with a legacy producer in the region who holds a sizable acreage position that is held by production.  The primary concern he had was the overall terrain throughout much of the Rogersville footprint.  His comment was that it would be incredibly expensive to develop the required infrastructure due to that fact alone.  I'm not from that region and not sure if that describes the play as a whole or more accurate of certain counties included in the play.  Is the terrain more advantageous in KY vs WV or do you have any thoughts on that issue?  Any input would be appreciated.

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Permalink Reply by 0ym9x5ag7ury2 on September 22, 2016 at 3:14am

Daryl,

     Go on Google Earth and you can walk or drive along the hills anywhere in the Rome Trough or anywhere on earth.

All it takes is 2 to 8 acres of semi flat land that a Producer can bull doze to suit his needs, then drill to 8000 feet down as is being done in Ohio. The terrain above has no consequence when the play extends below 24,000 feet as the Rome Trough does.

Legacy Producers are domestic producers. They like to buy cheap and underpay landowners who don't sell out. Telling landowners that they probably don't have anything of value is a great way to get takers on that $300 an acre lease that was offered to me.

With Social Media, the domestic producers are going to have problems keeping their secrets and duping the folks in the hills out of their potential wealth.

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Permalink Reply by Daryl Brown on September 22, 2016 at 3:53am

Thanks Ron I have heard about that google thing..........cool

I would love to see the Rogersville developed so I'm pulling for it.  My point in saying what I did was to communicate (not my opinion) but that of an area producer.  The fact is there is more to developing a play than building a pad to drill from.  There are road access issues, gathering and treating facilities to be built and a host of other infrastructure concerns that must be addressed and terrain is a factor in each of them.  

My question was more along the lines of which part of the Rogersville (if any) might be developed first considering terrain/infrastructure.  Does KY hold an advantage over WV or vice versa.  That was my simple question.  As with every point that is ever discussed on this board you once again choose to proceed on a tirade about how producers are merely out to screw and harm all landowners.  I wish there was a way to block your posts so we all could try to find something productive and helpful out here as opposed to your vitriol and bitterness (much of which you likely brought upon yourself.)  

Now.... you may once again berate me with your irrational half-crazed arguments against the entire O&G industry (I suspect you're a closeted Sierra Club member).........  Let the mud-slinging begin.  Just know I will not respond to another one of your comments but I'm certain that will not stop you......nothing ever seems to.  As my dad would say...... "some people just need to get a job"

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Permalink Reply by 0ym9x5ag7ury2 on October 7, 2016 at 1:57am

Daryl,

     You can block my posts by recognizing Mr. Magoo and not reading it.

I promise not to respond to another of your posts, since you pretend to be civil at the begining of posts. 

I tell the truth based on experience so I don't have to use mud-slinging.

Enjoy.

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