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Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on February 7, 2015 at 3:47pm

No I did not say anything about the type of frack GoFrac used. Three different companies could all be using the same methods in a frac job. But running a stage in a frac can be a failure as toa break down of equipment, wrong volumes of material being introduced, loss of pressure, safety incidents, cost, all are evaluated in comparing the overall best fracking services. 

Permalink Reply by arminius on February 7, 2015 at 5:03pm

Billy,

I think Harry is confusing the company you worked for, GoFrac, with another fracking service provider, GasFrac, that also sought bankruptcy protection in the past month.  GasFrac recently completed a well in Tuscarawas County for Enervest using liquid butane as the fracking agent.  Landowners in western Guernsey County are eagerly awaiting the results of this well to see if this is a better completion method for the volatile oil portion of the play.

Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on February 7, 2015 at 5:30pm

 K on that but now that you brought that forth I have a idea. Why not use condensate as a fracking agent to thin heavier crude out of volatile portion? 

Permalink Reply by arminius on February 7, 2015 at 6:52pm

As I understand it, the Utica/Pt. Pleasant is a very dry formation.  As  water is introduced during fracking, the clay that is present begins to swell impeding flow rates within the induced fractures.  This is not a problem in the eastern portions of the play where the regime is overpressured and the hydrocarbons are of a much lighter molecular structure, i.e. dry/wet gases and light condensate.  As one moves west across the play, the hydrocarbons become heavier, accompanied by a necessary reduction in the pressure within the formation. The introduction of water becomes too taxing in this less pressured regime as the swollen clays choke off the flow of the larger and heavier hydrocarbons in the newly created fractures. That which is used to create new openings for oil to flow, water, necessarily becomes a source to restrict that same oil from flowing by narrowing these newly created openings.

Within the volatile oil window, the hydrocarbons are not that far removed from condensate.  the problem is not so much as thinning the existing hydrocarbons, but of maximizing their flow for the existing pressure within the formation.

Permalink Reply by bo boboski on February 7, 2015 at 10:57pm

I've read where the results from :re-fracking these wells is great. Supposedly better oil production the sscond time around,after the first decline in flow. If this is true,look for these fracking co.s to stick around a whilke,whatever agents they use. I thought it was kinda odd that GoFrac set up shop in Cambridge,when most of their jobs are south of the Ohio border.Maybe it was for the Sand shipments? Halliburton too, right down the road on Adamsville rd. They go EVERYWHERE fracking and cementing. Gasfrac may be restructuring it's finances,but if the well near Gilmore proves to be the crack of the code, they could be around for a while too.

Permalink Reply by bo boboski on February 8, 2015 at 12:02am

Sounds like Billy was right about Gofrac in Cambridge. Go to Uticashale.com to read about it. It may be in The Daily Jeffersonian,Sunday. They spent a lot of $$$ on that site. Had a lot of million dollar frack trucks coming n going. Employed quite a few from the area. Billy may also be right about the reason for closing,although logistics may have come into play. Maybe Finding enough people in Guernsey co. who want to work those kindof hours,go that far away to jobsites, and past the drug tests too?

Permalink Reply by bo boboski on February 8, 2015 at 4:15am

Went by Gofrac this morning. gates are open,lots of people working there trucks/equipment moving. May be getting ready to move out? I got the sunday Daily Jeffersonian this morning; Cause the neighbors slept in, and seen no mention of them closing. It was in the Columbus news. I suppose the Jeff must not of thought it was news worthy?

Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on February 8, 2015 at 4:50am

I had worked for GoFrac along with a coworker that had worked there. his fellow mechanics had been told to take their tool boxes home earlier in the week. bo they are are probably packing up to take their equipment back to Texas. 

  Their equipment was for all counts new when it got here but it was not equipped for winter in Ohio, operators had very little training which took its toll. Operators with little training also created some very close calls which could have killed people and some locals bailed out. From my view point which was different from most EOs it appeared to me as the hotel bar business and big screen TV in the DATA VAN was the highest priority they had.  As far as a local work force goes they could draw from the area in which they did. Hiring individuals isn't hard to do anywhere you go but retaining them is.

  

Permalink Reply by Philip Brutz on February 8, 2015 at 5:46am

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/news/2015/02/06/texas-fracking-...

Texas fracking company reportedly exiting Utica shale play, closing Cambridge office

Feb 6, 2015, 2:20pm EST UPDATED: Feb 6, 2015, 3:52pm EST

GoFrac LLC, a fracking business working the Utica shale play, is closing in Ohio.

A few years ago the Texas company bought 90 acres in Guernsey County and opened an operation in Cambridge, its only one in Ohio. It made significant investments, including rail spurs and silos,Norm Blanchard, executive director of the Community Improvement Corporation in Cambridge, told me, and it once indicated it could hire as many as 250 people.

But eastern Ohio's Utica shale play, like other energy spots across the country, is struggling amid a downturn in oil prices. And now, GoFrac has told the local Ohio Means Jobs office this week it's closing, Blanchard said.

"The sad part is we thought they were the most solid, we'd never lose them," Blanchard said, because of the amount of investment the company had made.

GoFrac was formed in Fort Worth, Texas, in 2011 and counted more than 600 employees in Texas and Ohio as of last November. It uses hydraulic fracturing to service oil and gas companies, using water, gel and acid to crack underground shale rock to release fossil fuels to the surface.

GoFrac had appointed a new CFO and COO in recent months.

Calls made to the company's Cambridge and corporate offices were not answered and messages weren't returned. It's unknown how many jobs would be affected, but government officials intend to extend help to employees.

Permalink Reply by Billy Park Whyde on February 8, 2015 at 9:02am

 GoFrac pay was about $16.50/hr for EOs perhaps $17.50 with a Hazmat on their CDL. Two weeks out 14 days times x 12 hours = 80 hours + 88 hrs of overtime =$3498  a week off paid 40 hours $660 a week back on $1749. Monthly $5907 before taxes. I sure hope they didn't buy a house or vehicle upon those wages. 

Permalink Reply by Mike Fulper on February 11, 2015 at 9:03am

HERE IS A THOUGHT...

WITH THE LOSS OF ALL OF THESE DRILLING RIGS AND LOW PRICES AND

COMPANIES PULLING OUT OF THE OIL AND GAS...

I KNOW ONE COMPANY IN TOWN THAT "BORROWED"   BILLIONS  ??  !!!!!!!

AND THEY ONLY HAVE ..... 2 WELLS DRILLED.......??   THAT I KNOW OF....

AND SOUNDS LIKE ONE OF THOSE HAS BEEN "ABANDONED"  AND I DONT SEE

ANY "NEW" BUILDING GOING UP DOWN BY FEDEX....

HOW IS THIS OPERATION GONNA "PAY-BACK" ALL OF THESE "LOANS"   ??

GONNA BE SOME BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG  PROBLEMS  SOON........?? $$$

GONNA BE FUN TO SEE THIS GUY GET OUT OF THIS... PREDICAMENT.....??

Permalink Reply by countrygirl on February 11, 2015 at 11:18am

If you are talking about AEU they are putting up a new building...went by there the other day to check it out.......

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