Chesapeake Pipeline

I was visited today from a person to see about doing a right of way for a pipeline for chesapeake midstream operating in columbiana county ohio. what is the going rate per ft and what about trees.

I read the contract but nothing mentioned specific about the paying for trees that need to be destoyed by the pipeline.

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by JK on December 17, 2011 at 2:50pm

You are on the right track.

You can ask for timber value.

I don't know what's being offered in OH but here in WV, over 3 years ago, we got $12@ foot and you can tell them where you want the line to go on your property such as 'around the perimeter', for example.

That was with Chesapeake also. They started at $3. a foot.  I bet it is more now.

Chime in guys..

2s72s0k9mm8gdPermalink Reply by 2s72s0k9mm8gd on December 17, 2011 at 3:26pm

JK:

How wide was ROW and what diameter pipe and how many lines?

Thanks.

Permalink Reply by Charles Crissman on December 17, 2011 at 3:42pm

nothing that specific yet  didn't ask that questions yet they gave me a standard contract to look over

looks like 25ft  on each side

 

Permalink Reply by Jack Straw on December 17, 2011 at 3:04pm

Pipeline "Right of Way" has been the subject of many "Discussions" on this site.

There is very much to consider.

Spend a quiet day seaching out the information that has been posted by many (over an extended period of time) on this site.

There is a wealth of information; but to benefit fully, you have to slog through it - taking notes while you do.

It will take time and effort, but if you go through the effort - I predict that it will pay significant dividends.

 

But, when it is all said and done - sign nothing until reviewed by an Attorney with O & G experience.

Dealing with Chesapeake brings its own set of challenges. Good luck.

 

All in my humble opinion.

One size fits most.

 

JS

Permalink Reply by Charles Crissman on December 17, 2011 at 3:46pm

printed off a pipeline easement thing from a lawyer that he put on here has 38 ideas what to do great info

I read on Marcellus Drilling news tim greene land & mineral  Mang of appalachia that companies are now offering 15-35 per ft.

Permalink Reply by Kim D on December 18, 2011 at 4:11am

I'm assuming from the question/answers the $15- $35 per foot are for the pipeline itself?  Anyone know the going rate of timber these days or can give me a good link to reference?  

Permalink Reply by Jack Straw on December 18, 2011 at 6:15am

RE: "Anyone know the going rate of timber these days or can give me a good link to reference?

Should the time come when timber will be cut (for pad, roads, right of way), you will need the services of a qualified Timber Appraiser.

An appraisal from someone representing your interests would likely result in the fairest of compensation.

May find one listed in your local phone directory.

May fnd one through contact with a local realtor who handles a lot of sales of land with timber or farms.

 

All in my humble opinion.

One size fits most.

 

JS

Permalink Reply by Kim D on December 18, 2011 at 6:31am

Thank you, Jack...We have received many solicitations in the mail these past years, more so as of late...go figure.  I have been searching the internet and current forestry reports for the most recent 'going rate' of various species at the per linear foot rate.  I have yet to find specifics on say...quarterly average reports.  I have heard many horror stories of how your land is destroyed and a mess left.  I presume that word of mouth recommendation as to a reputable company is best.  It was a long shot...I thought perhaps...just maybe...someone reading this discussion may have recently had timber cut/removed from their property.  Your response is appreciated.

Permalink Reply by Jack Straw on December 18, 2011 at 6:52am

As an aside; when timber is sold, the timber company harvests the mature trees - of the species for which there is a current market. They leave trees that can be again harvested in perhaps 10 years,

When timber is removed for pad (etc.) all trees are cleared.

A Timber Appraiser should take into account those trees that are not mature/ready for timbering - but will be in 5-10 years time. A Timber Appraiser should place a value on these trees - recognizing that these trees are more than simply firewood (partiularly should these trees be the more marketable species such as Cherry, Red Oak, White Oak).

The renumeration for "clear cut" should exceed the value of currently marketable timber.

 

All in my humble opinion.

One size fits most.

 

JS

 

Permalink Reply by Kim D on December 18, 2011 at 7:05am

You are absolutely correct, Jack. I had never given a thought to the value of future mature timber.  I will keep that point in mind...especially since we have all three species of timber that you have mentioned.  Thank you.

Permalink Reply by Finnbear on March 7, 2012 at 6:58am

Charles Crissman

Any chance you'd share that document? Many of us here will be dealing with those same issues in the future.

Permalink Reply by brat on December 18, 2011 at 7:50am

This winter I'm having a timber sale, here in Harrison county.  My sale will be by sealed bid, managed by a forester Frank Lupino (whom I have been very pleased with in the past).  He tells me the timber pricing seen on the Ohio state website is lower than he has been getting,,,guess we'll see.   He will also do appraisals.

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