"With help from the state, two companies are working on opening the
first public natural gas refueling station in Western Pennsylvania.

Now they just need customers.


The state Department of Environmental Protection awarded Equitable Gas a $700,000 grant to build a public natural gas refueling station by the end of March at a yet-to-be-determined location in the Strip District. DEP also awarded Giant Eagle $900,000 to buy 10 natural gas vehicles and build another public refueling station in Crafton....


There are 24 natural gas refueling stations in the state, according to the U.S. Department of Energy. Five — all in Eastern Pennsylvania — are for public use. ..."


http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/pittsburgh/s_69... 


As someone who, by chance, purchased a gasoline vehicle that would also burn E85 10+ years ago - I'll believe the stations when I see them.





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Did T. Boone mention it would cost approx. $10,000 extra for the CNG car (Honda Civic) and the home refueling apparatus? It's an enticing idea, but imo the gas would be better used for building heating, power plants, fleets, and manufacturing.
I am ready for a natural gas auto.I own my own gas well in my back acres.
Thanks, for the info.I will buy a golf cart until they get refuel stations. Tank for propane gas is suitable for natural gas and would need some carbuerator changes.
Yes, I do think truck fleets like that are a practical use. For sure there is a lot of shale gas, but not an unlimited amount.
The fuel used in these vehicles would have to be compressed for sure. With such high pressure in their fuel lines I would think there would or could be a serious leak develop on the road. And supposed an accident took place? A huge fire bomb would be created unless some kind of shut of valve was installed that would instantly cut the gas supply from the high pressure fuel tank.

Comments anyone?

Bill L.
aka Bummy
Check out a company called New Gas and the automobile filling device that they have developed. Google the name or try http;//www.newgasbiz/401.html.
If you mean passenger vehicles, nothing new in the pipeline that I'm aware of.
I'm talking about any vehicle fueled by compressed gas operating on any road. Vibration can and does take place on these vehicles. A tiny crack can open up and allow the compressed gas to escape to collect near a hot area by the engine. A tiny spark could cause a huge "KABOOM" as Billy May might say it.


That man, Billy May, irked me something terrible whenever he came on TV to advertise some washing product.

Bill L.
aka Bummy
Bill, my reply was to Josie's comment. Personally, I have a healthy respect for propane/natural gas. Years ago, someone my family knew was killed by a natural gas explosion.
We had a Motor home in the late '70s that we converted for dual fuels, gasoline and propane/natural gas. Holley made the carb kit and still makes them for ford f150/250 trucks i believe. It worked like a wonder and the engine(460 ford) picked up at least 30% more horsepower when running on natural gas, hence we always saved the natural gas for the mountains on the way home. Some engines reportedly run better than others on natural gas, with no or little modifications. We never had any leaks, and the tank is all but indestructible. I was told that if the tank got ruptured in a collision, the wreck would be so bad that it would be the least of our concerns. We had no issues whatsoever with the setup. Also a side benefit is that the engine running on natural gas all the time would need oil changes much less frequently, like 30,000 miles since it burns so clean. Over the road trucking is the best use for natural gas. Most all truckstops on the interstates already have natural gas and they only need to fuel up maybe 6 times coast to coast. There is a company in Texas that for the past few years has been converting diesels to natural gas with lots of success. The federal gov't currently gives i believe $17,000 towards the conversion. The big issue with consumers using natural gas is the road tax situation. Until the gov'ts start charging road tax by mileage driven instead of volume of gas used we won't see it for cars. Then you can put a compressor in your garage and refuel your own car. Just my 2 cents.

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